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Old Monday 21st January 2019, 20:44   #1
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poss day flying moth? Syria

I had a poss day flying moth in an area of extensive mountainous Mediterranean coniferous forest in Syria (Al Fronloq), they were in the open along rides and firebreaks. It was towards the end of April and daytime temps were getting into the low 20's deg C. At the time i was convinced they were butterflies, but now i'm leaning towards a day flying moth?... You will need to zoom in a bit. TIA.
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Could it be a race or relative of Speckled Yellow Pseudopanthera macularia?
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Ooh nice we're surely in the right ballpark, cheers.
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Opening the photo my thoughts were identical to Andy's. Looks very similar to ours- maybe a different sub-species or sibling species? Maybe Martin will know for sure?
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I only know of two species in the genus, the other being Pseudopanthera ennomosaria.
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It may be a little out of date (and I don't know if there's been a revision) but the NHM card catalogue (LepIndex) lists about a dozen species, with ennomosaria as a junior synonym of himaleyica. This one may be P. syriacata.
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Thanks all. syriacata sounds like a decent bet! :-D
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There's an illustration here: https://eol.org/pages/412742
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Thanks - i'd been struggling to find images. Looks fairly similar (though not identical).
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How about Therapis flavicaria
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How about Therapis flavicaria
I don't get a single result of any kind under that name Richard?
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I don't get a single result of any kind under that name Richard?
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https://www.google.com/search?q=Ther...w=1707&bih=865

worked for me
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Here you go: Therapis flavicaria
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Does look good!

Now go and sort my Russian Geometrid please.......
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A quote from The Geometrid Moths of Europe vol. 5 might be of interest:

"Non-European Pseudopanthera syriacata .... from Middle East is almost identical in wing pattern and coloration".

For me, syriacata still looks a better match - but we will never know for sure.

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