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Old Tuesday 20th March 2018, 19:40   #51
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It's on p.47:

(See attached Google snippet, from [here].)
I'm off topic but is Cardeos an available name?
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Old Tuesday 20th March 2018, 20:24   #52
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I'm off topic but is Cardeos an available name?
It looks like one to me.
(It's published, described, and the type species is fixed.)
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PS/Update: I have located (but not yet seen):
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Enendrozdovoma Kashin, 1978, [Comments on Peters's Checklist of Birds of the World] in Sudilovskaya & Flint (eds.), Research of the Fauna of the Soviet Union. Birds and Reptiles, 164-176
I think (this said without understanding Russian, nor having found an open link) that the full title of the book where Kashin's Enendrozdovoma is (still) to found is (like the above); in Sudilovskaya, A.M. & Flint, V.E. (Eds.). 1978. Research of the fauna of the Soviet Union. Birds and reptiles a k a "Issledovaniya po faune Sovetskogo Soyuza" (Moscow University, Moscow, Russia) alt. (the longer, truly Russian, version) Птицы и пресмыкающиеся: Исследования по фауне Советского Союза (as of here, but only with the cover)

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A correction for David Arnot (commemoration Myrmecocichla arnotti). He was born 1821 (not in 1822) and he was general agent (and not attorney)

http://www.s2a3.org.za/bio/Biograph_final.php?serial=98
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Old Monday 30th April 2018, 22:42   #55
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● White-headed Black-Chat or Ruaha Chat Myrmecocichla arnotti* TRISTRAM 1869 as "Saxicola arnotti" (OD here + Plate on the following page) a k a either Arnot's - alt. Arnott's (Black-) Chat

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Among the species before me there are four which, so far as I am aware, are new and undescribed. The first of these (of which a figure is given) I propose to name after its discoverer, Mr. Arnott, and subjoin its description.

SAXICOLA ARNOTTI sp. nov. (Plate VI.)

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If his name surname truly was Arnot or Arnott is all unknown to me. Nor do I know of his professional experience/title. Either way, he's not checked in any depth, by me (i.e. not one of "my guys").

But I agree with Melanie on the birth; 26 June 1821 looks trustworthy. For what it´s worth!

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*Not arnoti, as claimed in the entry for Mr "Arnot", in Biographical Database of Southern African Science.
Apparently they had no proofreader for this text, making it slightly less reliable ...
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Also W. H. Benson spelled him D. Arnott (commemoration Nanina arnotti (today Microkerkis arnotti))

https://books.google.de/books?id=Ih4...0arnot&f=false

But J. D. Hooker spelled him David Arnot (commemoration Talinum arnotii )

https://books.google.de/books?id=GzZ...not%22&f=false

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Melanie,
In Charles Clinning's Southern African Bird Names explained (Southern African Ornithological Society, 1989) we find the following (on pp.141-142):
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arnoti........Arnot's Chat
David Arnot (1821-1894)
Born at Uitenhage in the eastern Cape, he was later an attorney at Colesberg, and was involved in the controversy over the territory of the Griqua chief Nikolaas Waterboer, the so-called 'Phillips Lands' on the diamond fields in the northern Cape, where he was accused of unscrupulous behavior.
That´s all ... for whatever it´s worth.

To my experience Clinning's book are normally adequate, especially when dealing with South Afrian locals.

However; enjoy!

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Hockey et al. (eds.), 2005, Roberts Birds of Southern Africa, VIIth edn., p. 957, has, "Arnot's Chat Myrmecocichla arnoti ... Named after David Arnot, an attorney at Colesberg, who contributed fossil reptiles, mammals, birds and insects to the South African Museum. Spelling of arnotti corrected to arnoti by Winterhouse & Skead, 1965, Ostrich 36: 147."

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His Death Notice (here alt. here) says:
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David Arnot
Father: David Arnot
Mother: Catherine van Wyk


... and onwards.
arnotti/arnoti ... over and out! (... at least on my part)
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Hockey et al. (eds.), 2005, Roberts Birds of Southern Africa, VIIth edn., p. 957, has, "Arnot's Chat Myrmecocichla arnoti ... Named after David Arnot, an attorney at Colesberg, who contributed fossil reptiles, mammals, birds and insects to the South African Museum. Spelling of arnotti corrected to arnoti by Winterhouse & Skead, 1965, Ostrich 36: 147."
Winterhouse (sic) & Skead (1965) in full:

On the Correct Spelling of Saxicola arnotti Tristram, 1869
Tristram, in describing this species, now usually known as Thamnolaea arnotti (Tristram), named it after its discoverer. This was David Arnot, law agent and advisor to the Griqua Chief N. Waterboer. It is clear, therefore, that Tristram misspelt Arnot’s name and Saxicola arnotti is a lapsus calami for Saxicola arnoti. The specific name should be corrected accordingly.
J. M. Winterbottom.
C. J. Skead.
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Hockey et al. (eds.), 2005, Roberts Birds of Southern Africa, VIIth edn., p. 957, has, "Arnot's Chat Myrmecocichla arnoti ... Named after David Arnot, an attorney at Colesberg, who contributed fossil reptiles, mammals, birds and insects to the South African Museum. Spelling of arnotti corrected to arnoti by Winterhouse & Skead, 1965, Ostrich 36: 147."
Intriguingly, H Chittenden, G Davies & I Weiersbye (2016, Roberts Bird Guide, 2nd edn: 464) list as Arnott's Chat Myrmecocichla arnotti with the following etymology: arnotti = after David Arnott (1822–1894), attorney and naturalist; ... Alt name Arnot's Chat
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Some notes to Nesillas lantzii

This name refers to Jean Auguste Lantz, a French naturalist, who lived from 1828 to 1893.

http://www.alsacemonde.org/wp-conten...F-161-2017.pdf

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Another incorrect birth year in the Key:

Julio Rafael Contreras Roqué (eponym: Geositta cunicularia contrerasi) was born in 1933 not in 1937.

https://www.researchgate.net/publica...eras_1933-2017

https://www.hbw.com/dictionary/key-t...ame=contrerasi

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The death year of Cecilia Torres (eponym Phylloscartes ceciliae) is lacking in the Key:

Cecilia Torres (1952-1985) (wife of Dante Luiz Martins Teixeira)

https://www.hbw.com/dictionary/key-t...?name=ceciliae

See BBOC 107 (1), 1987, p 38

https://www.biodiversitylibrary.org/...ge/66/mode/1up

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Well spotted, Melanie!

Imagine if they all were that easy!

A good reminder; to always, always start with the OD itself.

Cheers

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PS. Just curious (no doubts); where did you pick up the "Luiz" part in the (full) name of Mr Teixeira? I haven't seen it written this way before (except on Wiki, of course). On ResearchGate (as well as in the OD) he is simply "Dante Martins Teixeira". Not to confuse with Sr. Alysson Luiz Martins Teixeira.
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PS. Just curious (no doubts); where did you pick up the "Luiz" part in the (full) name of Mr Teixeira? I haven't seen it written this way before (except on Wiki, of course). On ResearchGate (as well as in the OD) he is simply "Dante Martins Teixeira". Not to confuse with Sr. Alysson Luiz Martins Teixeira.

There is a nice PDF with short biographies by Hitoshi Nomura

http://www.ao.com.br/download/secxxxxi.pdf

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