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Gull in Venice, Feb 2015 (terrible pics)

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Old Tuesday 16th July 2019, 06:24   #1
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Gull in Venice, Feb 2015 (terrible pics)

Saw these gulls while on a ferry from Venice to Burano. I know the pics are terrible, but is it possible to identify them or not? If so it would be a lifer since I have very few gull species at all and none from Europe.
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Old Tuesday 16th July 2019, 07:38   #2
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Hello,
the big one is probably the Yellow-legged Gull and the little one probably the Black-headed Gull.
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Old Tuesday 16th July 2019, 09:15   #3
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the big one is probably the Yellow-legged Gull and the little one probably the Black-headed Gull.
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Thanks for the input! Anyone able to confirm?
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Old Tuesday 16th July 2019, 12:25   #4
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you can't ID them from these pics but the suggested species are the most likely ones and you defintely saw both species when crossing the lagoon.
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you can't ID them from these pics but the suggested species are the most likely ones and you defintely saw both species when crossing the lagoon.
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So is it, in a birding sense, morally right to "tick" them or not?
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Old Tuesday 16th July 2019, 12:52   #6
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That’s very much up to you!
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So is it, in a birding sense, morally right to "tick" them or not?
That's down to you. Personally I prefer a positive ID, i.e. it is that species rather than an ID by elimination.

However they are more than likely the suggested species, especially the 'more than likely' BHGs in the last pic.
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I agree with the identification of the images - they are terrible pictures

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I agree with the identification of the images - they are terrible pictures

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Seconded, at best, all you get from images such as this are 'probable' ID's, if you're happy with that, it's up to you.
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So is it, in a birding sense, morally right to "tick" them or not?
... if you are willing to 'tick' species 'possibly' identified from dodgy images by other birders - why, yes!

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Thanks for the help all! I'll take it that I have in all likelihood seen Black-backed and Yellow-legged Gull, but not really tickable since I didn't ID it at the time and these photos are nowhere near conclusive.
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