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Butterfly ID (Sweden)

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Old Tuesday 4th December 2018, 20:01   #1
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Butterfly ID (Sweden)

I would very much appreciate your help with the ID of this butterfly I photographed earlier this year in Sweden.

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Old Tuesday 4th December 2018, 20:21   #2
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One of the Plebejus blues- maybe Silver-studded?
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Old Tuesday 4th December 2018, 20:58   #3
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One of the Plebejus blues- maybe Silver-studded?
I think Ida's Blue is the commoner, it certainly is here in Russia although it's obviously habitat dependent.

One of this hard to separate pair, has a spur on the foreleg I think if I remember correctly, this doesn't seem to have?
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If I learned anything from ladybirds, you have to be holding the damn thing to have any proper sense of whether it has a foreleg spur or not.
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Old Sunday 9th December 2018, 18:38   #5
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silver-studded_blue
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'Male P. argus have royal blue wings with a black border, white, wispy fringe, and metallic silver spots on the hindwings as well as spurs on their front legs.'

How are you ruling out Ida's?
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If I learned anything from ladybirds, you have to be holding the damn thing to have any proper sense of whether it has a foreleg spur or not.
This is a pretty good shot, surely you'd see the spur?
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On the strength of the photo I would plump for Ida's ……………… but these 2 are so difficult to separate!


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'Male P. argus have royal blue wings with a black border, white, wispy fringe, and metallic silver spots on the hindwings as well as spurs on their front legs.'

How are you ruling out Ida's?
I'm not, just a suggestion, but those spurs are tiny. Could be either I guess.

http://www.eurobutterflies.com/sp/argus.php
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I must admit, I hadn't realised it was this tiny and on this basis, I may have to re-evalute my own records.

In that link, her writes

'The upperside male black border is fine and the upperside hindwing space 7 largely blue in P. idas the border often much broader and space 7 lacks blue in P. argus.'

'Upperside'. does he refer to the forewing with this word as the features he mentions are on the underside are they not, mention of the black border being 'fine' and on one shot, of the upperside, it's clearly broad?
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