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Old Monday 30th July 2018, 08:07   #36426
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Tim - can't quite tell from the photo if that deer is a Roe or a Muntjac?
def a muntjac
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Old Monday 30th July 2018, 10:07   #36427
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Yes a Muntjac deer
There were 2 young in the same area Thursday going into the scrub to the right of the hide off and on from around 9.15am till 10.00am when I left the hide.
The one in the picture looks like an adult as it appears larger than the 2 on Thursday, I wonder if they're breeding close by.
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Old Monday 30th July 2018, 10:38   #36428
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Further update from Andy P at the Moors Pool:

Blackwit, 2 Snipe, 5 Green Sands, 3 Common Sands, 2 Lapwing, 8 Teal, 2 Shoveler, eclipse drake Wigeon, 3 Common Tern plus 2 chicks, Water Rail, Kingfisher. Also Muntjac in front of East hide.
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FLASHES Work Party Tuesday 31st July

Tomorrow we will be having a short work party pulling Ragwort from a couple of areas around the 2nd flash. This is to prevent the cattle from eating it as it doesn't do them any good.
Need gloves and possibly wellies but definitely walking boots.
Plan to start at 9am..obviously if there are any passage waders then we will postpone the work.
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Old Monday 30th July 2018, 16:31   #36430
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Tomorrow we will be having a short work party pulling Ragwort from a couple of areas around the 2nd flash. This is to prevent the cattle from eating it as it doesn't do them any good.
Need gloves and possibly wellies but definitely walking boots.
Plan to start at 9am..obviously if there are any passage waders then we will postpone the work.
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The only waders I saw at the flashes this morning were 75 Lapwing. I did note that there were very few flies along the waters edge and wondered if this indicates very high levels of salinity with all the evaporation and why there are no other waders here?
At Manby Flashes near Louth Lincs last week water levels were very similar to here but had loads of waders including Wood Sand, 20 Green Sands, 64 Blackwits, 8 Ruff, 5 Avocet and plenty of flies on the mud, it's fresh water though (water levels can be topped up via a small pipe which is connected to an adjacent brook if the pool dries up), I mentioned this to a couple of people from the Worcs Trust today.
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Old Monday 30th July 2018, 17:02   #36431
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The only waders I saw at the flashes this morning were 75 Lapwing. I did note that there were very few flies along the waters edge and wondered if this indicates very high levels of salinity with all the evaporation and why there are no other waders here?
At Manby Flashes near Louth Lincs last week water levels were very similar to here but had loads of waders including Wood Sand, 20 Green Sands, 64 Blackwits, 8 Ruff, 5 Avocet and plenty of flies on the mud, it's fresh water though (water levels can be topped up via a small pipe which is connected to an adjacent brook if the pool dries up), I mentioned this to a couple of people from the Worcs Trust today.
The biggest factor probably being the geographical proximity of Manby flashes to the East coast - rather than anything else.

Even at the current low levels, I doubt that the salinity of Upton flashes is greater than that of seawater (c 35,000 ppm), based on previous measurements in drought conditions.
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The only waders I saw at the flashes this morning were 75 Lapwing. I did note that there were very few flies along the waters edge and wondered if this indicates very high levels of salinity with all the evaporation and why there are no other waders here?
At Manby Flashes near Louth Lincs last week water levels were very similar to here but had loads of waders including Wood Sand, 20 Green Sands, 64 Blackwits, 8 Ruff, 5 Avocet and plenty of flies on the mud, it's fresh water though (water levels can be topped up via a small pipe which is connected to an adjacent brook if the pool dries up), I mentioned this to a couple of people from the Worcs Trust today.
There was an invertebrates survey two weeks ago so hopefully we will know what's in the mud/water .
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Old Monday 30th July 2018, 21:06   #36433
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2 Yellow-legged Gulls (juvenile and third summer) at the Moors Pool this afternoon as per Terry Hinett

2 Migrant Hawkers at the Moors Pool as per Andy P.
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The only waders I saw at the flashes this morning were 75 Lapwing. I did note that there were very few flies along the waters edge and wondered if this indicates very high levels of salinity with all the evaporation and why there are no other waders here?
At Manby Flashes near Louth Lincs last week water levels were very similar to here but had loads of waders including Wood Sand, 20 Green Sands, 64 Blackwits, 8 Ruff, 5 Avocet and plenty of flies on the mud, it's fresh water though (water levels can be topped up via a small pipe which is connected to an adjacent brook if the pool dries up), I mentioned this to a couple of people from the Worcs Trust today.
Phil W further reported from the Flashes this morning:

Just 4 Black-headed Gull, 75 Canada Geese and a Roe Deer in the harvested north field
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The biggest factor probably being the geographical proximity of Manby flashes to the East coast - rather than anything else.

Even at the current low levels, I doubt that the salinity of Upton flashes is greater than that of seawater (c 35,000 ppm), based on previous measurements in drought conditions.
I was reading a paper by John Belsey? in the hide where I think it said that salinity can be 4 times higher than sea water at times of low water levels.

I also visited the Hen Brook hide which is very overgrown but did see a small brown mammal which looked too small for a Water Vole, so one of the smaller voles?
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I was reading a paper by John Belsey? in the hide where I think it said that salinity can be 4 times higher than sea water at times of low water levels.

I also visited the Hen Brook hide which is very overgrown but did see a small brown mammal which looked too small for a Water Vole, so one of the smaller voles?
Probably a Bank Vole - they're common at Upton.

Very unlikely the salinity gets that high unless it completely dries out into tiny pools. When I measured it at very low water levels (below marker level of 0.25) it never got higher than 24,000 ppm - which is about 2/3 the salinity of seawater.
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From the Moors Pool this morning JTB reports:

Black-tailed Godwit, Green Sandpiper 5, Common Sandpiper, Snipe, Little Grebe 13 adults + 4 or 5 juveniles, Teal 12, Wigeon, Shoveler at least 3, Tufted Duck minimum of 8 broods, Great Crested Grebe adult +chick.
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Old Tuesday 31st July 2018, 18:23   #36438
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From the Moors Pool this morning JTB reports:

Black-tailed Godwit, Green Sandpiper 5, Common Sandpiper, Snipe, Little Grebe 13 adults + 4 or 5 juveniles, Teal 12, Wigeon, Shoveler at least 3, Tufted Duck minimum of 8 broods, Great Crested Grebe adult +chick.
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I was reading a paper by John Belsey? in the hide where I think it said that salinity can be 4 times higher than sea water at times of low water levels.

I also visited the Hen Brook hide which is very overgrown but did see a small brown mammal which looked too small for a Water Vole, so one of the smaller voles?
Must have been an old paper Geoff don't remember writing that
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I was reading a paper by John Belsey? in the hide where I think it said that salinity can be 4 times higher than sea water at times of low water levels.

I also visited the Hen Brook hide which is very overgrown but did see a small brown mammal which looked too small for a Water Vole, so one of the smaller voles?
Coincidentally Geoff we are planning to clear in front of Hen Pool hide next Tuesday
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Tomorrow we will be having a short work party pulling Ragwort from a couple of areas around the 2nd flash. This is to prevent the cattle from eating it as it doesn't do them any good.
Need gloves and possibly wellies but definitely walking boots.
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Today 8 of us cleared ( pulled out manually) two large areas of Ragwort from the southern meadow and meadow in front of the sewage works.
While walking around the 2nd Flash we came across a couple of interesting areas.
The first was in the SW corner hidden from hide view by a swathe of sedge. This is a very wet open pool where I found last year's Spotted crake. Considering that most of the 2nd flash is dry it is reassuring that there is still some wet areas surviving. I will try and post pics later.
The other area is between the 2nd & 3rd Flash. There was historically channels connecting all 3 Flashes. In time the one between the 3rd & 2nd flash silted up and no longer flowed. This caused the 3rd Flash to expand and deepen. It was a bone of contention as to whether we should clear out the channel and let the water flow into the 2nd. The thought was it would supply enough water to prevent the 2nd flash from drying up. However today we discovered that there is a flow but it is literally drawing into the eadt side of the 2nd flash and is only creating a small damp patch & won't be solving the drought problem.

Thanks to the team today
Bobby P. Bob R. Jim B. Kim W. Paul M. Steve S. Tony B and me.

Birds at Flashes today
Teal 2. Greylag 18. Water rail. Moorhen 14.
Lapwing 119. Green sand.
BHG 3.
Peregrine. Buzzard.
Raven. Rook 2
Green woodp. Kingfisher.
Lesser Whitethroat 2. Whitethroat. Blackcap 3. Chiffchaff. Reed warbler 5.
Linnet 10. Goldfinch 25. Greenfinch. Bullfinch.
Pied wag.
Reed Bunting few.
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Must have been an old paper Geoff don't remember writing that
Next time I'm in the hide I'll reread it.
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That's good, I'll be looking for Spotted Crake then.
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July finished on 96 species, just below the average of 96.83 species, with the year list advanced to 136.

Things usually pick up in August with the last 5 years producing an average of 106 species; potential additions may be limited due to conditions at the Flashes but could include:

Egyptian Goose, Garganey, Mandarin Duck, Spotted Redshank, Wood Sandpiper, Little Stint, Curlew Sandpiper, Caspian Gull, Little Owl, Whinchat, Tree Pipit, Crossbill
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From the Moors Pool this morning JTB reports:

Black-tailed Godwit, Green Sandpiper 5, Common Sandpiper, Snipe, Little Grebe 13 adults + 4 or 5 juveniles, Teal 12, Wigeon, Shoveler at least 3, Tufted Duck minimum of 8 broods, Great Crested Grebe adult +chick.
6 Green Sands in the end and one at the FLASHES..
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6 Green Sands in the end and one at the FLASHES..
"Best" count of return passage so far
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From the Flashes this morning Des J reports:

Male Redstart in the transmitter field hedge, 91 Lapwing, family party of Cetti's Warbler near the Hen Pool
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Mike Lilley from the Worcestershire Wildlife Trust will be carrying out a botanical survey at the FLASHES and Hen Pool today.. The Trust did contact me to make sure we hadn't got any unusual birds on the FLASHES. As good a time as any to do surveys. The water is very low and It will take a lot of heavy rain to wet the surface..The Moors will probably host most passage waders and don't forget to check along the SW marsh shore line from the East hide. john
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From the Moors Pool Andy P reports:

Black-tailed Godwit, 3 juvenile Shelduck circled over, 32 Lapwing, 4 Green Sandpiper, 2 Snipe, 7 Teal, 2 Shoveler, eclipse drake Wigeon, 3 Common Tern plus 2 chicks.
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Today's highlights:

MOORS/N MOORS*
Yellow Legged Gull (ad)+ 2 x 2s--------Herring Gull (15)
L B B Gull (c190)-----------------------------B H Gull (c250)
Black Tailed Godwit-----------------------Green Sand (3)
Lapwing (90)---------------------------------Common Tern (2) + 2 young
Teal (9) (3)*----------------------------------Shoveler (1)
Gadwall (1)-----------------------------------Wigeon (m)
Little Grebe (18)-----------------------------G C Grebe (1) + juv
Greylag Goose (8)---------------------------Cormorant (3)

FLASHES/SAILING POOL*
Lapwing (95)---------------------------------Cetti's Warbler-Hen Pool area.
Rook (22)-------------------------------------Redstart (m)-feeding from transmitter field hedge.
Peregrine--------------------------------------G C Grebe (2) + juv

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