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Gulls: Lake Garda, Verona, N Italy (1 Viewer)

maudoc

mau the doc
Italy
In have received these photos from Lake Garda, N Italy
I can see 4 large gulls, 2 are adults, with some Black-headed Gulls.
1 ad. for me is a Larus argentatus, Herring Gull.
Is the dark gull a Larus marinus or a Larus fuscus fuscus?
And the 2 immature gulls?
 

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I can't understand how much the bill of the dark gull is big.
In this photo mouth is open.
white spots are for marinus or fuscus?

tnx a lot
 

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Ciao Maudoc!

I think the large bird is definitely a Great Black-backed Gull (massive head and bill, short primary projection, limited head streaking), and the left hand bird looks good for a Herring Gull to me. The other one looks like michaellis.

Ottavio
 
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