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Andy Adcock

Worst person on Birdforum

• Dec 12, 2019

• #1

Of releasing Ring-necked Parakeets in London.......

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-50755015

 

Mike Crawley

Emeritus President at Burnage Rugby Club

• Dec 12, 2019

• #2

accidental escapes and deliberate releases was pretty much the "story" I was told when I was shown my first "wild" Ring-necked Parakeet in the 80's

 

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aeshna5

Well-known member

• Dec 12, 2019

• #3

I thought they were the Asian species rather than the African which is stated here.

 

Nutcracker

Stop Brexit!

• Dec 12, 2019

• #4

Yep, the UK birds (and most invasive populations elsewhere, as far as I know) are the Indian [sub]species. Better adapted to cold winters (northern edge of the range, in the Himalaya), if nothing else.

 

njlarsen

Gallery Moderator

Opus Editor

Supporter

• Dec 13, 2019

• #5

The eye-brow raising part of the article is this

By 1961, birds were a more popular pets than cats and dogs in the UK, with 11 million birds in captivity, of various species, and it seems obvious there would be an increase in escapes, researchers said.

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(I have recently counted up to 25 different birds of this species overflying our garden in half an hour)

Niels

 

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aeshna5

Well-known member

• Dec 13, 2019

• #6

Nutcracker said:

Yep, the UK birds (and most invasive populations elsewhere, as far as I know) are the Indian [sub]species. Better adapted to cold winters (northern edge of the range, in the Himalaya), if nothing else.

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I thought I read a paper about a year or so back that the African + Asian birds were genetically distinct + the sub-species were elevated to full species status?

 

Larry Sweetland

Formerly 'Larry Wheatland'

• Dec 13, 2019

• #7

aeshna5 said:

I thought I read a paper about a year or so back that the African + Asian birds were genetically distinct + the sub-species were elevated to full species status?

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Lumped by IOC, do any authorities split it?

 

Andy Adcock

Worst person on Birdforum

• Dec 13, 2019

• #8

aeshna5 said:

I thought I read a paper about a year or so back that the African + Asian birds were genetically distinct + the sub-species were elevated to full species status?

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Not on the IOC at least.

https://www.hbw.com/species/rose-ringed-parakeet-psittacula-krameri

 

Paul Chapman

Well-known member

• Dec 13, 2019

• #9

aeshna5 said:

I thought I read a paper about a year or so back that the African + Asian birds were genetically distinct + the sub-species were elevated to full species status?

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Some details on separation in the BB paper that assigned them to the Indian subspecies. I do not remember comments on genetics.

All the best

Paul

 

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Xenospiza

Distracted

• Dec 13, 2019

• #10

This will be of interest: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4657503/

 

dantheman

Bah humbug

• Dec 13, 2019

• #11

Xenospiza said:

This will be of interest: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4657503/

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Essentially (and this won't please some ) they've just been paving the way for the Paddyfield Pipits to follow on?

 

rollingthunder

Well-known member

• Dec 14, 2019

• #12

I thought there was an active programme to gas the roosts - whatever subspecies the bloody things are:C

Laurie -

 

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aeshna5

Well-known member

• Dec 14, 2019

• #13

rollingthunder said:

I thought there was an active programme to gas the roosts - whatever subspecies the bloody things are:C

Laurie -

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Never heard this + I live in the heart of RNP territory. They are on General Licence so can be controlled where they are a problem to crops, etc.

Monk Parakeets that were starting to increase were largely removed before they became too numerous

They do seem to be a "marmite" bird regarding enthusiasm for them or not. In Kensington Gardens they are very popular with some tourists who have the birds perched on them as they feed them.

Though I appreciate they shouldn't be here, they do provide one of the urban spectacles as the tight flocks fly low into roost.