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June 3, Quito, Ecuador birds, Part VI

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Old Wednesday 20th June 2018, 12:31   #1
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June 3, Quito, Ecuador birds, Part VI

Hi, my quest continues ...

I took these in the cloud forest northwest of Quito, Ecuador on June 3, 2018.

My thoughts are:

1. Montane woodcreeper?
2. Scrub Blackbird?
3. a female tanager of some kind? Stumped at the moment.
4. Orange-bellied Euphonia?
5. Is this the female of 4?

What do you think?

Thanks in advance,
Howard
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Old Wednesday 20th June 2018, 17:37   #2
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3 is female lemon-rumped, and different from 5 which I don't id at the moment.

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Old Wednesday 20th June 2018, 18:34   #3
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Strong-billed woodcreeper for one; blackbird for 2; for 5 looks to me like female euphonia (dumpy, short-tailed, bi-coloured bill cf the male you have). On plumage would suggest orange-crowned, but this is probably out of range and so perhaps an immature orange-bellied. Would expect more grey in adult female's plumage for an adult of that species.
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Thanks for the input! Here's another shot of the Woodcreeper showing the whole bill; now I tend to agree that this is a Strong-billed.
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Montane is pretty different : much more gracile with a very much thinner bill
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Do you guys think #4 is Orange-bellied Euphonia or Purple-throated Euphonia?

The coloration seems to fit Purple-throated better, but by range Orange-bellied is more likely.
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Purple-throated is eliminated on range for where you were, so Orange-bellied unless you were below about 1000-1200m elevation and/or in drier/more open habitat where Orange-crowned comes into play.

Agree with a female/juvenile Euphonia for the last photo.

Where exactly were the Euphonias photographed? That will help with ID. There's a big difference between Bellavista, Mindo, and Rio Silanche when you're talking about species to expect!
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Purple-throated is eliminated on range for where you were, so Orange-bellied unless you were below about 1000-1200m elevation and/or in drier/more open habitat where Orange-crowned comes into play.

Agree with a female/juvenile Euphonia for the last photo.

Where exactly were the Euphonias photographed? That will help with ID. There's a big difference between Bellavista, Mindo, and Rio Silanche when you're talking about species to expect!
Hi, thanks for the input.

The thing is I am not sure of the exact location. We hired a guide (who is not a specialized birding guide) for the day. He took us to hike the Pacay Waterfall (Cascada Pacay), then to Nanegalito for lunch, then to a private bird sanctuary not too far from the town.

I should have noted down the exact location and name of the place, but I did not ...
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It might have been this place, but honestly I am not sure; but it should be thereabouts:

https://www.tripadvisor.com/Attracti..._Province.html
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Should be Orange-bellied there. I don’t have enough familiarity anymore to try to separate without the undertail for males.
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For me the male is orange-bellied because the colour of the crown is not deep enough nor is its extent great enough for orange-crowned. However, as I noted, the plumage of the female is better for the latter species if it's an adult.
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