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Old Saturday 3rd November 2018, 17:02   #51
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On the first point, of course, the previous occurrence was a multiple record at the same location and would have been assumed to be the same bird if it wasn't rung despite the fact that they're not exactly common.

And on the second point, the first one survived for a period whereas the second died quickly so I am not sure the basis for your assumption on the first bird albeit that it's not difficult to assume it.

On habitat, the Spurn bird was not in deep forest and various wintering birds in the States and where I have looked for one in Helsinki in winter were not deep forest so I am not sure how much breeding habitat reflects a winter bird's ability to survive.

All conjecture either way.

I'm out so I cannot recall which of those birds had the brood patch that caused so much consternation?

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Yes, true - I believe the Spurn bird survived in a shelter belt there.
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Old Saturday 3rd November 2018, 19:08   #52
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Yes, true - I believe the Spurn bird survived in a shelter belt there.
It was in surprisingly big elder bushes near the tower at the point. Not that I saw it of course.

And Paul - go for it.

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Old Saturday 3rd November 2018, 19:16   #53
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Outhouses

A few of the older refurbed houses on mainland have outhouses which may just have been (in part) outdoor toilets; see attached for example only.

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Old Saturday 3rd November 2018, 19:21   #54
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"reportedly in the Finstown area" per rba.
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Old Saturday 3rd November 2018, 19:26   #55
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"reportedly in the Finstown area" per rba.
Doing a google drive around Finstown you can see plenty of trees and wooded gardens, conifer stands etc - a lot for Orkney anyway - must be a good bet.

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Old Saturday 3rd November 2018, 20:07   #56
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Doing a google drive around Finstown you can see plenty of trees and wooded gardens, conifer stands etc - a lot for Orkney anyway - must be a good bet.

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Quite a vegetated area. I dipped some Parrot Crossbills there when we spent a couple of days on Orkney whilst the North Ron Sibe Blue Robin was no longer being seen.....

It is the location of two previous autumn records in 1980.

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Old Saturday 3rd November 2018, 20:23   #57
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I understand news is circulating that a Tengmalms Owl has been seen today in Finstown.

I know nothing about a Tengmalms Owl in Finstown.

I suggest that folk do not travel until this news is confirmed.

I would have thought by now that info on site/names of observers/photo's etc would have emerged.
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Old Saturday 3rd November 2018, 20:38   #58
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I understand news is circulating that a Tengmalms Owl has been seen today in Finstown.

I know nothing about a Tengmalms Owl in Finstown.

I suggest that folk do not travel until this news is confirmed.

I would have thought by now that info on site/names of observers/photo's etc would have emerged.
I think this news is being used to pry open the location, a bit of a phishing exercise. Its designed to make the locals panic and put pressure on those with actual news. Its the way fake news works nowadays.

Are you able to tell us if there are any negotiations being made with the landowner, or is the site never going to be released?
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Old Saturday 3rd November 2018, 20:53   #59
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I understand news is circulating that a Tengmalms Owl has been seen today in Finstown.

I know nothing about a Tengmalms Owl in Finstown.

I suggest that folk do not travel until this news is confirmed.

I would have thought by now that info on site/names of observers/photo's etc would have emerged.
The 'news' referred to yesterday.

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Old Saturday 3rd November 2018, 21:45   #60
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Rather that twitching it inside the toilet, more logical is to wait outside until the birds flies away at dusk. Or perhaps, somebody very, very slowly opens the door, without showing himself to the bird. The owl should remain inside as it is the darkest place around.

I imagined that a crowd of birders comes... to the wrong toilet, with some poor guy inside. I would be perfect for some British comedy clip.
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Paul I couldn't agree more with some of the sentiment above, you have to see it. There is every chance that you won't be able to change the landowners stance but at least you will be able to have that discussion. If nobody gets to see it who has a twitchers interest at heart we have no chance.
Paul, don't go, they've put a tracker on your car .
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Old Saturday 3rd November 2018, 22:25   #62
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Rather that twitching it inside the toilet, more logical is to wait outside until the birds flies away at dusk. Or perhaps, somebody very, very slowly opens the door, without showing himself to the bird. The owl should remain inside as it is the darkest place around.

I imagined that a crowd of birders comes... to the wrong toilet, with some poor guy inside. I would be perfect for some British comedy clip.
Sounds a bit like the Father Ted episode when they inadvertently keep harassing a woman. They end up hiding in an outside toilet and she is in there...
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The moment George Michael has been waiting for, a public toilet with hundreds of men watching outside.
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I remember twitching a reported Tengmalm's at Kielder Forest during the 1994 World Cup. It was never seen or heard of again, the midges were like a biblical plague, ...
Me too


Good story from that one - at the end of the organised search in the pitch dark, a group of southerners asked if they could have another try on their own . . .


"Yes, sure. You can go 5 miles down that path, or 7 miles down that track, or 8 miles along that one. Make sure you don't get lost!"


"Oh."


They didn't try
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I have seen Tengmalm's here in the US in anything other than heavily wooded areas...my first one in a small copse on the Connecticut coast, one in an evergreen in Central Park, Manhattan, and the most bizarre, a bird roosting in a lone pine tree outside a block of flats in downtown Boston centre!!
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I remember twitching a reported Tengmalm's at Kielder Forest during the 1994 World Cup. It was never seen or heard of again, the midges were like a biblical plague.
I stayed in Kielder for a week a few years after that report whilst moth trapping various locations for Cloaked Pug (without success). The midges were terrible and came to the lights in huge numbers. The only worse place I have trapped was the Black Wood of Rannoch.

I confess that I did dream that I'd bump into a Tengmalm's in there whilst trapping....

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Stand down everyone?

https://theorkneynews.scot/2018/11/0...tengmalms-owl/
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Surely this is now into realm of spoof?

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Maybe "Harry" could be caught and delivered to mr Lowes to save him the trouble of a trip to Orkney, if you get my drift!!!
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Fake news.
Well it's news as it's a real article.

I hope this isn't an attempt to get a good natured Orcadianan to reveal the location to assist a grieving falconer, only to find a hundred hairy arsed birders camped in their doorstep
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And if he's such a dearly loved 'friend' why did the 'owner' not supply a picture of Harry, but instead the article had to resort to using an internet picture? something really not adding up here.
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A Tengmalms Owl was stolen from the Owls Trust at Bodafon Farm Park in Llandudno a couple of days ago.

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Bodafon Farm Park @Bodafon_farm

Coincidence ?
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https://twitter.com/Bodafon_farm/sta...83159838523398

The timings of this seem too close and judging by the amount of poo on that toilet seat the orkney bird was there a fews days before the photo was taken.
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