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Old Thursday 27th August 2015, 14:32   #1
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Darters in Hunstanton, Norfolk

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I've only recently started taking an interest in dragonflies so would appreciate help identifying this pair. I can't decide whether they are red veined darters or common darters with the pink hydrangea bush giving the impression of red veins. Thoughts and reasons why would be appreciated.

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Pair of Common Darters.
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One of the separating features for Red-veined is that the lower half of the eyes is white, you can see on yours that they're yellowy green.


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One of the separating features for Red-veined is that the lower half of the eyes is white, you can see on yours that they're yellowy green.


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Lower half of eyes usually bluish on RVD in my experience.
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Pair of Common Darters.

Agree, in #2 you can see the yellow stripes on the black legs, the lower eye is yellowish green which on a Red-veined Darter is actually blue or blue-grey and there is no yellow patch at the base of the hindwings as there would be on RvD.


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Lower half of eyes usually bluish on RVD in my experience.
Sorry aeshna, confusing the feature, bluish rather than yellow green. Don't know why I had white in my brain, should have checked pics and notes before posting!

We had a detailed discussion about this when we found one during an irruption which got in to Belarus for the first time this year, what am I confusing it with?


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Sorry aeshna,
getting the colours mixed up, knew it was a feature and should have checked pics and notes before posting in haste.

We had a discussion about RvD in Belarus where we found it after an irruption where the species reached the Country for the first time.

Sorry for misleading, Andy

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Thanks to you all for ID and finer points which will help me in the future.

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