Unusual Collared Dove, Oman (1 Viewer)

opisska

rabid twitcher

• Jan 24, 2020

• #1

I would have written this off as weird lighting conditions, if it weren't for the direct comparison with a normally looking Collared Dove standing right next to it. It also seems to be smaller? Could this be something exotic, like Red Turtle Dove?

 

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Seth Miller

Well-known member

• Jan 24, 2020

• #2

Are there different plumaged subspecies of Eurasian Collared?
Definitely not Red-collared (alternative name for Red Turtle Dove). They are noticeably smaller than Eurasian collared

 

Andy Adcock

Worst person on Birdforum

• Jan 24, 2020

• #3

Is Vinaceous a possibility?

https://www.google.com/search?q=vin...WNgVwKHcgJD0cQ_AUoAnoECBIQBA&biw=1366&bih=613

 

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opisska

rabid twitcher

• Jan 24, 2020

• #4

andyadcock said:

Is Vinaceous a possibility?

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Never heard of it, never recorded in Oman nor anywhere else on the Arabaina Peninsula as far as I could find, but to be fair, doesn't look that bad and the range is pretty close ...

 

dwatsonbirder

Well-known member

• Jan 24, 2020

• #5

I think Vinaceous can be ruled out on the basis that there is no black in the tail?

 

Seth Miller

Well-known member

• Jan 24, 2020

• #6

dwatsonbirder said:

I think Vinaceous can be ruled out on the basis that there is no black in the tail?

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And ring on neck looks much to slender for Vinaceous, at least from all the photos I've checked.

 

Seth Miller

Well-known member

• Jan 24, 2020

• #7

Fairly similar looking pair of Eurasian Collared also from Oman. https://macaulaylibrary.org/asset/1...85.1121089040.1578807863-911504256.1525747852

 

dantheman

Bah humbug

• Jan 24, 2020

• #8

Presume some of these doves are captured as cagebirds/interbred, and hybrids can occur (cf Barbary Dove elsewhere)

 

opisska

rabid twitcher

• Jan 24, 2020

• #9

Shame, another shot at a gWP rarity denied by reality

 

dantheman

Bah humbug

• Jan 24, 2020

• #10

opisska said:

Shame, another shot at a gWP rarity denied by reality

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Looking at your pics you can certainly say, on reflection, that it isn't (and if it had been pecking at the ground you could have said another shot at a rarity bites the dust ...)

soz ... :eat:

 

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stevethehydra

Well-known member

• Jan 24, 2020

• #11

Have hybrids ever been recorded between Collared and Laughing Dove? This bird looks kind of like what I'd expect that to look like.

 

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petectid

Well-known member

• Jan 25, 2020

• #12

stevethehydra said:

Have hybrids ever been recorded between Collared and Laughing Dove? This bird looks kind of like what I'd expect that to look like.

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Just what I was thinking that neck collar gives it that look.

 

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petectid

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• Jan 25, 2020

• #13

African Collared dove also occurs in Oman, and this bird may fit that?

 

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andyb39

Well-known member

• Jan 26, 2020

• #14

petectid said:

African Collared dove also occurs in Oman, and this bird may fit that?

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They're the same size as Collared and are much paler than this with a pale head, whitish undertail coverts and a pink, not cinnamon, wash on the breast. They also have a limited distribution in Oman.

There might be something in the theory that it's a Collared-Laughing cross. Or it could just be an escaped domestic variant.