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Mongolian Birds early August

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Old Friday 13th April 2012, 22:42   #1
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Mongolian Birds early August

Please could someone ID the attached birds?

A & B: Altai mountains far West probably 2500 metres both around a small lake.
A (small thrush size). B had one white stripe along the underside of each wing rest black, behaved a bit like a wagtail is it some sort of redstart?
C & D: Centre North by large rivers, C (chaffinch size) in open plains, D (wren size) edge large forest.

Any help much appreciated.

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Old Friday 13th April 2012, 22:52   #2
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I think 2 is a juvenile Guldenstadt's Redstart and 3 is Grey-necked Bunting. With the other two, I'd wait until the parents show and to identify them!
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Old Saturday 14th April 2012, 00:53   #3
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Really don't know, but I had #3 as some sort of rose finch...(which kind? no idea yet)
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Old Saturday 14th April 2012, 08:05   #4
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the Bunting looks more like an Ortolan to me, it appears to have a grey breast band.
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the Bunting looks more like an Ortolan to me, it appears to have a grey breast band.
I agree with ortolan for the same reason, grey-necked does not have this band.

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Old Saturday 14th April 2012, 13:43   #6
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First one looks like an immature Accentor sp., with I suppose Altai (aka Himalayan) the most likely candidate.

I'm in agreement with Guldenstadt's & Ortolan.

The fourth has a Red-breasted Flycatcher look to it. Maybe.

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Thanks very much for responses...

Any other ideas on 1 and 4 appreciated.

Now I have the perfect excuse for the Mrs to go back there to ID the nippers' Mums and Dads!

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1. I believe the pattern of the greater coverts suggest Altai Accentor (rather than Alpine). Perhaps Hodgson's Mountain Finch could spring to mind as well, but to me the bill proportions looks too weak for a Mountain Finch.

2. Agree on juv Guldenstadt's.

3. Agree Ortolan.

4. A bit tricky, but in this part of the world I believe the tail pattern excludes anything but a Ficedula flycatcher. Looks like a juvenile bird, and since juvenile Mugimaki shows an all dark tail, my vote goes to Taiga Flycatcher.

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