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A big Pipit, a suspect Swift and a tristis type? Paphos last week. (2 Viewers)
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Dortmundbirder
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The Phylloscopus looks good for a Bonelli's Warbler to me.
Mark Lew1s
My real name is Mark Lewis
I don't think the phyllosc is a 'safe' tristis, although it does look the part in some ways (pale underparts, good super).
Going against it are:
Too much green in the mantle and scaps (some is tolerable in tristis but this is a lot)
Too much yellow in the super (again, some is tolerable in tristis but this is a lot)
Lacks any warm tones on the face
Bare parts don't look strikingly dark enough - although again, there is some variation here
Upper part of eye ring dominates supercilium, rather than the other way round.
Any more pics of the bird Ken? A useful feature at this time of year for tristis is that it should be in moult - so missing/scruffy tertials, tail feathers etc.
Going against it are:
Too much green in the mantle and scaps (some is tolerable in tristis but this is a lot)
Too much yellow in the super (again, some is tolerable in tristis but this is a lot)
Lacks any warm tones on the face
Bare parts don't look strikingly dark enough - although again, there is some variation here
Upper part of eye ring dominates supercilium, rather than the other way round.
Any more pics of the bird Ken? A useful feature at this time of year for tristis is that it should be in moult - so missing/scruffy tertials, tail feathers etc.
KenM
Well-known member
The lighting direct and dappled, dependant on the birds position in the tree, altered the cosmetics substantially Mark, ie showing a grey collar and then not, visual ambiguity was the name of the game. I'm aware of the ''Classic'' tristis type, wondered where this might sit across the cline, clearly of an Eastern persuasion and cosmetically quite unlike the partial Leucistic (starboard wing) example shown...last image.
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Mark Lew1s
My real name is Mark Lewis
Are any of the pics the same bird as in the original post?
Mark Lew1s
My real name is Mark Lewis
Could be abietinus then I guess. Tristis are variable but I don’t think they can look like this.
KenM
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I take it that you're not referring to the last image (leucistic), but to the original bird...as I've never knowingly seen abietnus an interesting suggestion, certainly in the right part of the world for one I'd have thought?
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