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Birds from Botswana (1 Viewer)
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arcadillor
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1.terrestial brownbul
2.curlew sandpiper
3.marico sunbird
4.red eyed dove？
5.rattling cisticola
6.lesser grey shrike
2.curlew sandpiper
3.marico sunbird
4.red eyed dove？
5.rattling cisticola
6.lesser grey shrike
oleg2oleg
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Thank you!!!
Red Eyed Dove should be with the black strip on the neck... and Lemon Dove more colorful, sure, but.... I don't know.... )
arcadillor
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some say juvenile red eyed dove collar indistinct，but I have not see any one lack at all
lemon dove have a rather short wing not beyond uppertail coverts
oleg2oleg
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Bye the way, you may be right... Check this link please https://www.africanbirdclub.org/afbid/search/birddetails/species/701/30782
Valéry Schollaert
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The dove is African Morning (Morning Collared) - S. decipiens.
oleg2oleg
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I also thought that it is Miombo, but I make this picture in the South part of Botswana, and Miombo areal mostly in Zimbabwe... May be it's immature Marico?
oleg2oleg
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Also without of black strip and red skin around the eyes?
I really don't think it can be Marico. I don't think Marico starts out red and then gets darker.
In the south of Botswana, then it would presumably be Southern (Lesser) Double-collared Sunbird.
For the dove, I'd go for Red-eyed, though it must be a juvenile without the proper neck ring. You can see the neck ring starting to grow, though, I think. The noticeably pale forehead is surely a pointer to Red-eyed?
(Or maybe it's a bird lacking one colour. The legs are grey rather than red, for example.)
(Or maybe it's a bird lacking one colour. The legs are grey rather than red, for example.)
oleg2oleg
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Here is problem again, on my mind. Southern is endemic of south of SAR.. Please, look at the map, red dot - there I made this picture. Areal for Marico only, but yes, white belly and so on....
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Yes, I have the same map. If you look it gets to the Botswana border (the pale green). In 'Birds of Africa South of the Sahara' the map shows all the area (dark green and pale green) in the same red.
I don't think it can be Marico, and I can't think of another possibility.
How far south in Botswana were you?
Valéry Schollaert
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Juveniles don't have collar, if this is you point, and the eye ring as a thin circle is typical of S. decipiens and excludes Red-eyed that has much wider and different shaped. Red-eyed Dove has also much dark eye.
arcadillor
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I still think is a marico
is has black mottled belly，neither southern nor miombo have any black on belly
and its red band with some blue&purple feathers，that two both have no at all
it is a moulting marico
is has black mottled belly，neither southern nor miombo have any black on belly
and its red band with some blue&purple feathers，that two both have no at all
it is a moulting marico
oleg2oleg
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It was town Kang, you can find it on the Google map...
In 'Birds of Africa South of the Sahara' the map shows all the area - I have another book....
oleg2oleg
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Valéry Schollaert
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By the way, this is an article I published in French about ID of those doves.
The first comparative photo has names in latin, so you can use it. Look at the red eye-ring of S. decipiens, and compare the shape with S. semitorquata.
The first comparative photo has names in latin, so you can use it. Look at the red eye-ring of S. decipiens, and compare the shape with S. semitorquata.
Valéry Schollaert
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I was often stumped how variable is the colour in the field. There's no much other option than Marico in Botswana with this pattern...
