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Wheatear from Bulgaria (1 Viewer)
- Thread starter mladvas
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lou salomon
the birdonist
fresh autumn male eastern black-eared wheatear. please specify location and date, that always helps.
Brian J Small
Well-known member
adult male Pied
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What makes you think it's adult?
I disagree that "it helps", you should be able to have an opinion just based on the features from that perfect image. Otherwise your opinion is pointless to me
Richard Prior
Halfway up an Alp
I fear your responses to two of the most respected contributors to the Bird identification threads on Birdforum are not going to encourage them, or others to help you.
Thanks, you helped a lot...
Richard Prior
Halfway up an Alp
My pleasure. Perhaps I was a bit grumpy there......To me, that ‘scaly’ look to the mantle and that only faint orangey wash below suggest Pied Wheatear , but as you no doubt know, there are hybrid Pied x Black-eared in parts of Bulgaria which muddies the water somewhat.
harr1y
Well-known member
Seriously !!! ... Location and time of year helps ...any info helps ... have your opinion by all means ..but its a bird i.d forum ... W*F !!!
rollingthunder
Well-known member
The guidelines clearly state the protocol.
If you wish for help then it might be best to comply? There are some of the best birders in the UK willing to assist but not if you are going to be arsey:t:
Laurie -
If you wish for help then it might be best to comply? There are some of the best birders in the UK willing to assist but not if you are going to be arsey:t:
Laurie -
Simon Wates
Well-known member
True! And arguably the most valued opinion regarding wheatears that exists full stop! Apart from the minor detail that his artworks and texts are superlative in this respect.
And regarding "perfect photos", well its a nice photo indeed but not perfect for ID - for example your bird showing an open tail could help enormously
If you want to try and work out the ID yourself, you can see some Pied Wheatear artwork from this thread's contributor here: https://www.researchgate.net/figure/FACING-PAGE-Male-Pied-Wheatears-Oenanthe-pleschanka-left-hand-birds-and-tails-and-male_fig1_321854101 Note that this is from "older work"
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rollingthunder
Well-known member
Agreed Simon:t:
And Shahrzad needs his own Wheatear forum and probably a Shrike one shortly:eek!:
Laurie -
And Shahrzad needs his own Wheatear forum and probably a Shrike one shortly:eek!:
Laurie -
Lou commented on this bird, last I checked he wasn't from the UK. Plus there's a lot of knowledgeable posters on here, people like Killian Mullarney, Andrea Corso, Thibaut Chansac to name but three, who are also from outside the UK. There's plenty of respected ID posters who are British, of course, but please don't make out that that's the only ones worth listening to. 😉
Simon Wates
Well-known member
Agree wholeheartedly though I think it was just an innocent oversight, though one that can stir the soul for sure!
rollingthunder
Well-known member
I didn’t suggest that Harry - wind your neck in we’re all on the same side mate. I was irritated by the tone of the poster.
Laurie:t:
Laurie:t:
