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Old Wednesday 24th October 2018, 06:49   #26
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I could stretch this trip to two weeks for 2019: it seems more appealing for everyone: it's a little short notice I know - but would need some real commitment from others before I book anything.
Flights look like 500-650.
12 ground days would be $1200 ish for car and driver, between however many.
Accommodation maybe less than 3-400?

Anyone up for that for 2019: anytime February?


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Old Wednesday 24th October 2018, 07:31   #27
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Old Wednesday 24th October 2018, 08:00   #28
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HalfTwo, I have emailed you the chain from my failed 2015 trip for your information. I officially still have 15 days leave left to take by the end of the FY, so in theory could stretch to 2 weeks. But 2020 could also work for me.

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OK, I'm going to forget this for 2019 and will resurrect this thread for a February 2020 trip, for about two weeks, probably around July next year.

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Ah right okay thanks for letting us know. Feb 2020 should be ok. Will wait to see more.
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Ethiopia Feb 2020 independent budget

I've asked the webmaster if the old thread I began here last year can be resurrected.

If it can I'll update it.

If not I'll re-start on this one.

Flights from Manchester to Addis (direct) currently 431.

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Still interested, but I have only got about enough leave left for a 2 week trip starting and ending on a weekend. :)
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Still interested, but I have only got about enough leave left for a 2 week trip starting and ending on a weekend. :)
That sounds fine. Could you do Friday to Saturday or Sunday?
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Could be interested, and dates not a problem. Send me itinerary thoughts/details - do you still have my email? Cheers, Kelvin
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My partner and I will be in the country for 2 weeks in November doing an independent trip focusing on Bale/Harenna/Lake Awassa/Guassa Community Conservation Area. If you are visiting any of these areas and want recent gen let me know - we're targeting endemic mammals on this trip, but still hoping for a good haul of HoA endemic birds.
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That would be great, thanks very much Daniel.

Who are you using as a driver?

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Could be interested, and dates not a problem. Send me itinerary thoughts/details - do you still have my email? Cheers, Kelvin
I'll have a look, Kelvin, & get back to you

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That would be great, thanks very much Daniel.

Who are you using as a driver?

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No problem, as mentioned before it isn't strictly a birding trip, but hoping to catch up with some goodies (woodpecker, owl, ground thrush, catbird and parisoma are main targets), so if I am successful I can send some co-ords . It's very much an independent trip, as we are going to be using public transport or hitch-hiking for the most part. We have a guide and driver for the Bale/Harenna leg, I'll add his details to this post when I can connect to better Wi-Fi.
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Thanks Daniel, the endemic mammals are my main interest too!
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Thanks Daniel, the endemic mammals are my main interest too!
It would be nice to prioritise both birds and mammals with an itinerary that aims to do just that, after all, most will only ever visit the country once.

I am a little concerned that mixing people with different priorities could cause some problems on the trip?

Don't get me wrong, I'd love to see Gelada but wouldn't be keen on a diversion (at cost to the bird list) for e.g a Rat!
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Quite right, Andy, however the Geladas are at a birding spot anyway.

I'm sure we can sort out an itinerary which gets us most of both without anyone feeling they've lost out.

Personally, I'd like to see birds & mammals, but I'm not that bothered, e.g., to travel a hundred miles for a single endem.

I'll put some thoughts on here soon, and KK, if you could let me know what would be your priorities, then a route to suit will emerge.

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Obviously there can be conflict and in fact, I was planning to go in 2015 but that never happened. The big issues I had were that two people dropped out at short notice and another guy, Janco whose interests are more mammals, then invited his birding uncle who insisted on covering Yabello and Negelle in a one night stay at the expense of time in Bale mountains, where I really wanted at least 3 nights for the wolf. I didn't feel the extra journey time (very long out of the way drive) was worth the benefit of a couple of extra birds, even nice ones, like the turaco. They ended up booking a different driver/guide and went their own way, you can find his trip report on mammalwatching.com. As a result of this I never went to Ethiopia and went and spent two weeks with wild dogs in South Africa instead.


Given we're looking at two weeks, spending time in the highlands and around the rift valley lakes would seem to be a good starting point, I am really into both birds and mammals and Richard and I have discussed this over email at some length already. but for the benefit of others, for this trip my mammal priorities would of course be the geladas and the ethiopian wolf first and foremost. Luckily for me the other mammal targets that I am keen to see are also the ones in the Bale mountains i.e. Starck's hare, giant mole rat etc. I'd like to do a bit of spotlighting if possible. There are other good mammal possibilities such as golden wolf, striped/spotted hyena , aardwolf, aardvark, caracal, serval, oryx depending on what other sites we visit.

Birding wise I don't have any specific targets in mind other than showy stuff and I have less interest in targeting LBJs (bird or mammals, don't need to ID every small rodent we see or go chasing after small endemic mammals). Does anyone have any birding targets in mind?


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Birding wise I don't have any specific targets in mind other than showy stuff and I have less interest in targeting LBJs (bird or mammals, don't need to ID every small rodent we see or go chasing after small endemic mammals). Does anyone have any birding targets in mind?


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There are 18-20 endemics I believe ( depending on taxonomy applied) and that's a fairly modest number, on a targeted bird trip, you'd hope to see most, if not all of them. Got to admit though that the only standouts for me are the Turaco and the Bush Crow.

Sounds like the Wolf needs some time?

I have no problem spotlighting and would obviously like to see most of the mammals on your list but birds are my priority, anything else would be a bonus.

Here are the endemic birds according to one list.

Pternistis harwoodi (Galliformes Phasianidae) Harwood's Francolin

Scleroptila psilolaema (Galliformes Phasianidae) Moorland Francolin

Cyanochen cyanoptera (Anseriformes Anatidae) Blue-winged Goose

Caprimulgus solala (Caprimulgiformes Caprimulgidae) Nechisar Nightjar

Corythaixoides personatus (Musophagiformes Musophagidae) Brown-faced Go-away-bird

Tauraco ruspolii (Musophagiformes Musophagidae) Ruspoli's Turaco

Vanellus melanocephalus (Charadriiformes Charadriidae) Spot-breasted Lapwing

Poicephalus flavifrons (Psittaciformes Psittacidae) Yellow-fronted Parrot

Zavattariornis stresemanni (Passeriformes Corvidae) Ethiopian Bushcrow

Heteromirafra archeri (Passeriformes Alaudidae) Liben Lark

Hirundo megaensis (Passeriformes Hirundinidae) White-tailed Swallow

Parophasma galinieri (Passeriformes Sylviidae) Abyssinian Catbird

Zosterops kaffensis (Passeriformes Zosteropidae) Kaffa White-eye

Oenanthe dubia (Passeriformes Muscicapidae) Sombre Rockchat

Pytilia lineata (Passeriformes Estrildidae) Red-billed Pytilia

Macronyx flavicollis (Passeriformes Motacillidae) Abyssinian Longclaw

Crithagra flavigula (Passeriformes Fringillidae) Yellow-throated Seedeater

Crithagra xantholaema (Passeriformes Fringillidae) Salvadori's Seedeater

Crithagra ankoberensis (Passeriformes Fringillidae) Ankober Serin

Serinus nigriceps (Passeriformes Fringillidae) Ethiopian Siskin
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We were there 2017.....wolf not a problem at all. We had 6 in an hour...they don't get up early either so perfect for me
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We were there 2017.....wolf not a problem at all. We had 6 in an hour...they don't get up early either so perfect for me
Good to know, thanks.
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Thanks, BBB,

Good to know - I had the impression that the wolves weren't too difficult - I guess, though, like all things trip-wise, nothing is guaranteed.

I too, like the idea of spotlighting - always up for maximising the day/night!

I'd like very much like to do the Bushcrow/Swallow/Turaco sites around Yabella - easily doable on a 2 week trip, and not very distant from the Wolves site anyway.

There are, probably, 1 or 2 endems which aren't worth the extra travel/effort, but most are reachable, if not necessarily nailed on.

We'll have to keep a eye on the unrest in the north, and perhaps compromise around that area, though again, I wasn't planning on extensive travelling there anyway, rather concentrating on 2 or 3 sites, if memory serves.

I think the different interests of various parties can be accommodated, I've done a few shared trips now to know that. We all should say what would be a deal-breaker and what would be a must.

I just want to see as much of everything as possible, within reason.

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The advice I received at the time from a respected bird guide was that if you are going to cover yabello/negelle you ideally need 4 days accounting for travel coming from Bale It is possible to cover these sites in less time but it's a hell of a drive. I don't know if the infrastructure has improved, but that's what I was told at the time.

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If you look at eBird for the sites of the 3 species around Yabella, you can see that there isn't a need to do excessive distances, they have been seen relatively close to the Bale plateau region.
And, yes, Ethiopia has benefited hugely recently from improved infrastructure (courtesy of the Chinese, apparently)
So, when I was looking to do 10 days or so last year I had to sacrifice this extension, but it's easily doable in a fortnight.

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