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How to identify the Blue-throated Flycatcher and Hill Blue Flycatcher?

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Old Monday 3rd July 2006, 05:21   #1
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Question How to identify the Blue-throated Flycatcher and Hill Blue Flycatcher?

It looks like the same between Blue-throated Flycatcher's subspecies glaucicomans (Cyornis rubeculoides glaucicomans) and Hill Blue Flycatcher(Cyornis banyumas). How to distinguish them?

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Old Monday 3rd July 2006, 07:49   #2
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A very good question and one already asked without a satisfactory response.
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Hi Wei,

A very good question! I actually came across a male cyornis in central Thailand in February (wintering grounds of glaucicomans, banyumas resident) that I was unsure about, despite good views I find them unidentifable on field views alone, however, the songs of the two are noticeably different. My bird proved unresponsive to glaucicomans song but reacted strongly to the song of banyumas. An easy solution to a complex group.
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Hi James,

Thanks a lot. I totally agree with you. The song is one of the most important identification solutions. And someone told me the differences are the legs and bellies. glaucicomans's leg is black-brown as the banyumas' leg is pink. Another characteristic is that the glaucicomans has only orange breast with white belly, but banyumas' breast and belly side are all orange. How do you think with this opinion?
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Hi Wei,

I agree that the leg colour is a good indicator, especially as some banyumas have very pale pink legs. However, in the darkness of the forest in poor light this feature isn't too noticeable, especially if the bird is some distance away, but still the best field mark on a silent bird.

The underpart colouration I struggle to trust, I only use this feature as an indicator as opposed to a distinctive field mark. When I last observed glaucicomans in Sichuan I noticed some varibility on this feature, 2 birds had quite extensive orange underparts reaching to the belly.

The colour leg can just about be seen on this photo:
http://www.orientalbirdimages.org/se...Family_ID=&p=5
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Thanks James, as you say, the outdoor experiences are very important.
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