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Old Wednesday 16th January 2019, 19:23   #1
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Birds of Lima, Peru

Hello all,

We had a week in Lima, Peru in October 2018, and have quite a few birds that we can't tell apart or are not sure what they are. Any help Identifying these would be gratefully received,

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Paul and Catheryn.
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Old Wednesday 16th January 2019, 19:28   #2
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...and three more from Lima - October 18

...and three more from Lima - October 18
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Old Wednesday 16th January 2019, 19:31   #3
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Old Wednesday 16th January 2019, 19:32   #4
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Thanks both - clearly we need to get better at identifying female Vermillion Flycatchers!
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Thanks both - clearly we need to get better at identifying female Vermillion Flycatchers!
Of course, don't forget that many "vermillion" flycatchers in Lima are actually black or dark brown: doubtless it's the pollution 😉
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Of course, don't forget that many "vermillion" flycatchers in Lima are actually black or dark brown: doubtless it's the pollution 😉
I'm not sure if you're being serious or not, but I'm pretty sure the cause is not pollution but genetics

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I'm not sure if you're being serious or not, but I'm pretty sure the cause is not pollution but genetics

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Not serious (hence emoji). But as you know the pollution isn't (i.e. is) great. It would be interesting to better understand the genetics given that the dark morph is restricted to Lima. Perhaps an avian Biston betularia (again not serious...)?
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When I was in Lima it took me a long time to work out that these were actually Vermillion Flycatchers!
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It's been bandied about that kids in Lima with slingshots who select the brightest male Vermilions (the blood is said to be an aphrodisiac) have created intense selection against red males, and dark morphs have resulted.

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