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Old Thursday 12th December 2019, 23:00   #126
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The access was there three hours ago.... and now its gone!
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https://sci-hub.tw/10.1093/auk/ukz070
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Old Friday 13th December 2019, 13:57   #127
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Yes I should have checked Sci-hub; didn't think it would be there just yet. Turns out I was wrong; Heteroglaux is the one genus not sampled, and that was recently shown to be nested within Athene (post #70). The position of Jubula is unresolved since the sample was rather old.
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Old Friday 13th December 2019, 14:27   #128
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Anyhow, their taxonomic recommendation is a bit hasty for my liking
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Old Tuesday 7th January 2020, 12:14   #129
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I don't think the following paper has been picked up by forum members:
Collar, N.J., Boesman, P. (2019). The taxonomy of certain Asio and Bubo owl species in Africa and Arabia. The Bulletin of the African Bird Club 26(2):155 - 169.

Besides documenting the differences with their closest relative for A. abyssinicus, B. ascalaphus and B. cinerascens (all recognized species in most taxonomies, but based on very limited evidence to date) we also documented species-level differences (phenotypic and vocal) for B. milesi. This last taxon hasn't yet been widely recognized as a full species.
Genetic data were not discussed in the paper.

In HBW/BLI taxonomy, I believe B. milesi reaches the required criterium for species status. In IOC taxonomy, I noticed that Sunda Owlet was split from Collared Owlet based on voice and a single morphologic difference (Gwee et al. 2019), so I can hardly imagine the outcome for B. milesi (having stronger morphological distinctiveness and similar vocal separation) would be different if considered…
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I don't think the following paper has been picked up by forum members:
Collar, N.J., Boesman, P. (2019). The taxonomy of certain Asio and Bubo owl species in Africa and Arabia. The Bulletin of the African Bird Club 26(2):155 - 169.
Online here: https://www.researchgate.net/publica...ica_and_Arabia
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Does anyone have a copy of the study?
Would be interesting to read!

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Athene noctua

Cheng-He Sun, Hong-Yi Liu, Xiao Min, Chang-Hu Lu. Mitogenome of the little owl Athene noctua and phylogenetic analysis of Strigidae. Int. J. Biol. Mac. 151, 924-931. DOI: 10.1016/j.ijbiomac.2020.02.238

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New advances in molecular approaches for DNA analysis have enhanced our understanding of the phylogenetic relationship of birds. The Little Owl (Athene noctua) is of great significance for the integrated management of forest diseases and control of regional pests. Here, we sequenced and annotated the 17,772 bp complete mitogenome of A. noctua. The mitogenome encoded 37 typical mitochondrial genes: 13 protein-coding genes, two ribosomal RNA genes, 22 transfer RNA, and one non-coding control region (D-loop). The organization and location of genes in the A. noctua mitogenome were consistent with those reported for other Strigidae birds. Phylogenetic relationships based on Bayesian inference and Maximum likelihood methods showed that A. noctua has close relationships with Athene brama and Glaucidium cuculoides, confirming that A. noctua belongs to the Strigidae family. The phylogenetic relationships among seven genera of the Strigidae family used in this study were: Ninox and the other six genera were far apart, Otus and the clade ((Bubo + Strix) + Asio) were clustered into one branch, and Athene and Glaucidium were clustered into one branch. This phylogenetic classification is consistent with prior taxonomic studies on the Strigidae family. Our results provide new mitogenomic data to support further phylogenetic and taxonomic studies of Strigidae.
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Bubo is biphyletic, with lacteus, shelleyi, sumatranus, nipalensis, philippensis and blakistoni grouped with Ketupa (Fjeldså comm)


IOC would have information that we don't have, or that would not yet published ?
To my knowledge, Bubo philippensis has never been analyzed in phylogenetic studies. I'm curious to know their position within the Bubo/Ketupa group

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IOC would have information that we don't have, or that would not yet published ?
To my knowledge, Bubo philippensis has never been analyzed in phylogenetic studies. I'm curious to know their position within the Bubo/Ketupa group
It has certainly been barcoded. A quick scout on BOLD and Genbank provided a tentative result. It seems to come out in a clade with K. ketupu and K. blakistoni. Depending on the tree drawn it could be sister to either species.

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