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Old Friday 15th May 2020, 08:24   #176
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Proposal (830) to SACC

Transfer Picoides fumigatus to the genus Leuconotopicus
Proposal (830) to SACC. Transfer Picoides fumigatus and all Veniliornis to Dryobates

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Old Friday 15th May 2020, 08:40   #177
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How do you want an unified taxonomy if taxonomic decisions are so cr***y ?

I keep my fingers crossed that IOC will not follow them

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Old Friday 15th May 2020, 12:01   #178
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How do you want an unified taxonomy if taxonomic decisions are so cr***y ?

I keep my fingers crossed that IOC will not follow them
Why is this crazy?

And IOC will almost certainly follow them.
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Old Friday 15th May 2020, 12:36   #179
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Why is this crazy?
See arguments of Areta and Stotz, they are the most wise person among those who commented.

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IOC Updates Diary Feb 25

Post proposed lump of Tawny Piculet with Ochraceous Piculet, tentatively as a distinct subspecies of the latter.
IOC Updates Diary May 16

Accept synonymization of Picumnus fulvescens with Picumnus limae.
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Old Sunday 17th May 2020, 15:38   #181
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Accept synonymization of Picumnus fulvescens with Picumnus limae.
So not as subspecies?

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So not as subspecies?Niels
The SACC proposal to synonymize them says

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Therefore, Lima et al. (2020) propose that P. limae and P. fulvescens comprise a single species with a high degree of color variation and a clinal distribution.
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I just wanted to make sure I read the text correctly because post 169 contained the proposal to "tentatively treat as subspecies".

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It's still hard to tell because the taxonomy which SACC manages doesn't include subspecies.
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Picus rafflesii

Guy M. Kirwan, Nigel J. Collar. Picus Rafflesii Vigors, 1830, re-assigned to Chloropicoides Malherbe, 1849. Bulletin of the British Ornithologists’ Club, 140(2):147-150 (2020). https://doi.org/10.25226/bboc.v140i2.2020.a5

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A recent comprehensive molecular phylogeny of the Picidae recovered the genus Dinopium as paraphyletic, with Olive-backed Woodpecker D. rafflesii sister to Pale-headed Woodpecker Gecinulus grantia. Of the available taxonomic responses, we favour assigning D. rafflesii to its own genus, in line with the modern trend to recognise more and smaller genera. Several genus names were used for rafflesii between the mid-19th and early 20th centuries, of which Chloropicoides Malherbe, 1849, is the oldest. Available information suggests, however, that it was not Malherbe's intention to designate rafflesii as the type of his new genus, but that in near-simultaneously publishing two works on the Picidae he inadvertently introduced Chloropicoides first in combination solely with rafflesii, making it the type species by monotypy. Should it be proven that his other, more detailed paper was in fact published first, then another Malherbe genus, Gauropicoides, could be used by those who seek to recognise the distinctiveness of rafflesii.

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Jynx torquilla

Chao Du, Li Liu, Yunpeng Liu, and Zhaohui Fu. 2020. The complete mitochondrial genome of the Eurasian wryneck Jynx torquilla (Aves: Piciformes: Picidae) and its phylogenetic inference. Zootaxa 4810: 351-360.
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The Eurasian Wryneck is a species of wryneck woodpecker breeding in temperate regions of Europe and Asia. We sequenced the mitochondrial genome of Jynx torquilla (Aves, Piciformes, Picidae) using the next generation sequencing. The circular genome is 16,832 bp long, encoding 13 protein-coding genes (PCGs), 22 transfer RNAs (tRNAs), two ribosomal RNAs (rRNAs), and two control regions. Gene order and orientation are similar to the most common type suggested as ancestral for birds but have a 1,221 bp control region and a 60 bp remnant control region. Phylogenetic analyses of 17 piciform taxa, based on both nucleotide and amino acid sequences of mitochondrial PCGs, strongly support the monophyly of Picidae. All phylogenetic trees indicate that the subfamily Jynginae is a monophyletic lineage sister to other woodpeckers, including monophyletic Picinae. Only the Bayes inferred tree based on the nucleotide dataset, recovered Picumninae as monophyletic. These findings will be helpful for the understanding of the phylogeny and evolution of Picidae.
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Yaroslav A. Red’kin, Diana R. Zhigir (2020). Northern subspecies of the Japanese Pygmy Woodpecker Yungipicus kizuki (Temminck, 1836). Russian Journal of Ornithology 29 (1961): 3699-3718

In total 149 specimens from northern parts of breeding range were processed. We recognize the reality of the four northern geographic races of the Japanese Pygmy Woodpecker:
Yungipicus kizuki permutatus (Meise, 1934)
Yungipicus kizuki seebohmi (Hargitt, 1884)
Yungipicus kizuki ijimae (Taka-Tsukasa, 1922)
Yungipicus kizuki kurodae Bergman, 1931

Link to download the full number with paper: https://ornis.su/downloads/category/...-1961&start=80

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Yaroslav A. Red’kin (2020). A new subspecies of the great spotted woodpecker Dendrocopos major iturupensis subsp. nova. Russian Journal of Ornithology 29 (1964): 3825-3835

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Is someone able to confirm that the Russian Ornithological Journal publishes a printed version? If it is published online only, the new taxa described are not validly introduced, as they need a ZooBank registration.
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