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Old Tuesday 14th April 2020, 12:29   #1
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Can anybody help me ID these two species?

Hello all

I live in north Wales and have recently bought a decent camera as I enjoy taking photos. I'm very keen to get into photographing wildlife and especially birds.

I have already taken a couple of less than great pics but there are two that are puzzling me. As I am no expert on bird recognition when it comes to the less that obvious species, I was hoping that somebody on these forums would be able to identify the two birds in the attached photographs for me. Both photographs were taken in the hills of north Wales.

I would be most grateful if anyone can help.

Thanks in advance.
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Old Tuesday 14th April 2020, 12:40   #2
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Hallo Spadge 1,

first one is a Dunnock. Please note the right lead grey colour, which is enough for ID in a common bird, when everything else is right (like in this case).

Second is a first year Wheatear, please note: white rump and black tail (white parts arent visible as tail is folded). Overall colours also fit.
There are rarer wheatear-species, but a young wheatear in Wales is a Northern Wheatear by distrubution.
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Hi Spadge 1 and welcome to BirdForum. I agree with Alexander on the ID’s

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Old Tuesday 14th April 2020, 12:56   #4
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I did wonder if the second one might be a Wheatear. I had no clue about the Dunnock though. Many thanks to both of you for sharing your expertise in identifying them.
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Agree with the ID's. This is quite early for a juv Wheatear to appear: the adults don't return till late March, so this bird's parents didn't waste much time !
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Thanks for your input Dave.
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