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Warbler Song, Durham, UK

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Old Tuesday 9th June 2020, 19:05   #1
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Warbler Song, Durham, UK

Recorded this unseen Warbler song on the coast this afternoon. I didn't recognise it, although it seems to have some Whitethroat qualities about it. After several minutes continuous singing it went quiet and I never heard it again.
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Old Tuesday 9th June 2020, 19:38   #2
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Perhaps one of the Acrocephalus? Sedge?
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Old Tuesday 9th June 2020, 21:49   #3
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Doesn’t sound like Sedge to my ear, believe I can hear a few “chip” and “chirp” notes, don’t know if Melodious Warbler might be in there somewhere?

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Old Wednesday 10th June 2020, 07:54   #4
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Recorded this unseen Warbler song on the coast this afternoon. I didn't recognise it, although it seems to have some Whitethroat qualities about it. After several minutes continuous singing it went quiet and I never heard it again.
As you probably know there's a mini influx of Blyth's Reed Warbler going on in the UK at the moment. Having listened to a few recordings online, that's where my money would be.

There is clearly considerable variation, but this recent one from Norfolk is quite similar:https://www.xeno-canto.org/562700

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Well, I don't get an Acro feel here at all; it sounds more like Blackcap to me.
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Old Wednesday 10th June 2020, 09:28   #6
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This is what I love about birding, a lot of experienced folk ( well five so far!), each suggesting a different possible species! Nobody has suggested Marsh Warbler yet, did it ramble on with the same phrases Mark or do other imitations during the several minutes it was singing? I don’t really recognize it as Marsh though from the recording so Blyth’s Reed sounds feasible listening to Steve’s xeno canto clip and especially considering the influx you’re having over there.
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It sounded pretty similar the whole time, I certainly didn’t pick out any repeating mimicry. No sign today of it.
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Old Wednesday 10th June 2020, 10:33   #8
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I'm in the Blackcap camp. Sometimes they don't feel like singing the usual song...
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I am with Dave and Roland: a Blackcap for me.
Allmost every year, I heasr one or two Blackcaps that sing extremly similar to a Sedge Warbler. And then its allways the same: "Oh, a Sedge Warbler... Yes, it is (I have heard many of them, so I feel confident to ID them against Reed and Marsh Warblers quite easy. But as I regular are in a region in SW-Germany, where Sedge Warbler is a scarce/rare migrant and even rarer as a breeding bird, and with this experience, I wait until I see the Blackcap or it turns the song to a more regular Blackcap-version (which they sometimes doesnt do!).
And sometimes I hear Blackcaps that gave a "strange" feeling. Theyre song can be described as a "hard to describe" Sylvia-warbler song, that sounds at first to contain imitations, but youre not sure about that. Then I allways hope for a rarer Warbler species, that I dont have much experience with. But its (nearly) allways a Blackcap.

I get this impression from this recording: so a Blackcap for me . And I dont get the feeling of a Melodious Warbler
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There are plenty of Blackcaps in the area, but Blackcap never entered my mind whilst listening to it.
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Could be Garden Warbler
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My initial thought was Blackcap but it seemed a bit long winded which i always then revert to my fallback species which is Garden Warbler which to me sounds like a Blackcap that doesnt know when to stop

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There is almost certainly a Blackcap singing on the tape, but I don’t believe that is Mark’s “subject” song?, and those notes to my ear do sound distinctly odd, implying not a “regular” Sylvia. Agree with harr1y regarding the manic Garden Warbler v the more measured Blackcap.

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Note that my initial comment had no ID value, it was a 'shot from the hip' mostly intended to broaden the discussion; Sedge was suggested because this is a common coastal migrant in the UK and also because some notes were somewhat suggestive of one to me (not a typical song though). Listening to the recording again I still have some difficulty in hearing there a (typical) Sylvia (but perhaps not an impossible option). If I have the time I'll try to analyse it more properly.
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