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Rustic or Uncertain or Rustic or Uncertain or Rustic or etc etc etc...?

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Old Friday 26th June 2020, 18:01   #1
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Rustic or Uncertain or Rustic or Uncertain or Rustic or etc etc etc...?

I think they're Uncertain. Or possibly uncertain.
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Old Saturday 27th June 2020, 05:42   #2
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Rustic / Uncertain aggregate unless dissected, for our recorder.
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Old Tuesday 30th June 2020, 09:50   #3
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Cheers Andy. For sending in records I will be putting them down as Uncertain / Rustic, but for the purposes of my hobby I would be happy counting either species on the garden list if I could get one that looked close enough. I think it will be a case of building up a bit more experience, getting a load more photos, and not worrying about them too much right now.
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I’ve had a couple through over the last few days and have treated them as Uncertain, primarily because of the dark joining bar to the “lower” kidneys, also the lack of deeper/darker tone above and abutting the “wavy” line with the dark darts beneath the kidney shapes that appears on Rustic?

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Rustic / Uncertain aggregate unless dissected, for our recorder.
Same for my CMR.
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I would say that these are tricky! The first pic I identified as Uncertain and the second pic as Rustic.

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