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lou salomon · Feb 10, 2012

oh wow, 4 new 2cy pontics! welcome back here too, james.

Cristian Mihai · Feb 11, 2012

Herastrau - February 11th 2012 (I think is the same bird as in post #2255)

Cristian Mihai · Feb 11, 2012

Hi James,

Where did you take the pictures from post #2260?

jamesevry · Feb 11, 2012

Hello Cristian,
it was in Herastrau up by the railway bridge - I'm not sure if both pics are of the same bird at slightly different times? There was also an adult night heron there today which was odd - hope it was warmer than I was.

Cristian Mihai · Feb 11, 2012

jamesevry said:
Hello Cristian,
it was in Herastrau up by the railway bridge - I'm not sure if both pics are of the same bird at slightly different times? There was also an adult night heron there today which was odd - hope it was warmer than I was.

Wow, Night Heron! Very odd indeed.

Armin Kreusel · Feb 11, 2012

Today I found a LBBG in the german midland and somebody means that this could be a fuscus.
What are your thoughts?

lou salomon · Feb 11, 2012

yes, it looks very much like a fuscus.

Cristian Mihai · Feb 12, 2012

February 12th 2012 - Blizzard, so no chance for new pics today...

Armin Kreusel · Feb 12, 2012

lou salomon said:
yes, it looks very much like a fuscus.

Hay Lou,
thanks for your comment.
Would be my first fuscus

davpen · Feb 13, 2012

Further to tittletattler's dark-eyed Herring on 4th, here's one taken today, 13th, in W Yorks, England. Head appeared totally unstreaked as shown here. Looks like a ventral bulge there as well(?). Probably clutching at straws but I was wondering about the possibility of it being a hybrid. Does anyone reckon it's worth me having another look for it tomorrow?
Cheers.

David

lou salomon · Feb 13, 2012

could well be a hybrid but that's impossible to prove. hardly any gonys, very dark eye and it looks pretty advanced for a 3rd cycle herring gull - all cachinnans pointers. still, there's no "need" for it to have caspian blood (and certainly not a pure one...).

davpen · Feb 14, 2012

Thanks Lou. No sign of it today anyway.

David

JANJ · Feb 14, 2012

lou salomon said:
could well be a hybrid but that's impossible to prove. hardly any gonys, very dark eye and it looks pretty advanced for a 3rd cycle herring gull - all cachinnans pointers. still, there's no "need" for it to have caspian blood (and certainly not a pure one...).

Looks good for a dark-eyed Herring!

JanJ

Cristian Mihai · Feb 17, 2012

Herastrau 17 February - A 4cy Caspian?

lou salomon · Feb 17, 2012

2 different individuals, cris, right?
1st one is a 3rd cycle (4cy), 2nd could even be a 5cy (no black in tail, grey greater coverts, rel. large apical spots) - very nice to see the dorsal grey tongues in outer primaries!

cheers

jamesevry · Feb 17, 2012

Got carried away today and shot over 200 gull pics in Herastrau - will post just a selection here. Quality is pretty bad thanks to my dodgy resizing methods, sorry about that. And also after a long absence from these parts my gull ID is a little rusty to say the least.. so please correct my errors :-O

1/2 - think the same bird, ad. cach with pale eye?
3/4/5 - all (different) ad. cach?

jamesevry · Feb 17, 2012

1/2/3 - the same 4cy cach? This bird was the most dominant and aggressive among the 30 or so other gulls. There seemed a very definite pecking order..
4 - mixed bunch, won't bother guessing what's what.
5 - a retarded 3cy cach?! (or something...)

have 15 more to come but will wait for comments on these first, cheers!

lou salomon · Feb 17, 2012

hi james, good to hear you had a good gulling foto session.

1-2 is not fully adult but probably 5cy - note dark smudge on primary covert, solid p10 subterminal mark, small p9 mirror and strong dark bill mark.
3 is another 5cy (4th cycle) cach.
4 & 5 could even be the same male cach (or two different ones, hard to tell).
i have yet to find out what the 2cy on the same pic is, prob. a mich but i have some doubts.
fish eating prob. another adult cach.

6 a classic 3rd cycle beating up a 1st cycle (2cy)
7 very nice pic of this beautiful bird (same as 6?) in triumphing pose.
8 ...and having his meal...
9 possibly again all caspian: upper left a 3cy, left and lower right two 2cy (of i'm not entirely sure, esp. the left one) and an adult.
10 bleached male 2cy cach.

i have yet to count that immense flock on febr. 8th, cristian. how many birds have there been today out on the ice, james?

jamesevry · Feb 18, 2012

Thanks very much Lou, reminding me of important points. There was probably max. 30 around a pool of unfrozen water - but so much fighting/moving so didn't count. They were pulling out those fish and eating them alive, pretty grim sight, going to try film them today! But first some more!

11/12 - the same (have same pale spot on bill) 2cy cach?
13 - again a 2cy cach?
14 - another 2cy cach?
15 - umm?

can someone remind me the best points to separate 1st cycles of the two species please... not sure about these ones. Annoyed how much I've forgotten :-C

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