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Gulls in the UK

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Old Wednesday 23rd October 2019, 19:41   #1
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Gulls in the UK

It's me again. This time, I've got 2 gulls. Both seen in Conwy, UK last week.

Thanks for any help!
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Both Herring Gulls; immature (1st W?) + adult.
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If your mum keeps a list, worth noting under IOC taxonomy these are European Herring Gull (Larus argentatus), and American Herring Gull (L. smithsonianus) is split. Under Clements / eBird they are lumped as plain old Herring Gull (L argentatus)
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