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Old Tuesday 21st July 2020, 17:05   #1
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warbler ID please

I found this bird in my garden this morning on the bird bath, so its feathers are a bit fluffed up from bathing.
I was thinking Whitethroat or Spectacled warbler ??
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Old Tuesday 21st July 2020, 17:25   #2
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why not female Sardinian?
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Old Tuesday 21st July 2020, 22:32   #3
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Agree with Sardinian Warbler (note the red orbital ring and concolorous wing with mantle among other things)
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Agree with Sardinian Warbler (note the red orbital ring and concolorous wing with mantle among other things)
I see white orbital ring...
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I see white orbital ring...
You don’t see a Sard? What do you think it is then?


(the orbital ring looks pinkish on my monitor)
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I see white orbital ring...
It's not white but it's not red either on my screen, a very feint pinkish I'd say?
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It's not white but it's not red either on my screen, a very feint pinkish I'd say?
It’s generally described as ‘red’ so force of habit but in reality, females have a much rosier subdued colour than the males. However, this could be a juvenile on closer inspection
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You don’t see a Sard? What do you think it is then?


(the orbital ring looks pinkish on my monitor)
My first impresion was Spectacled Warbler with that darker blue near the base of the bill and the white orbital ring (all of this through the screen of my mobile). Now, I'm looking at it in my computer and I still looking at a dirty white, at least, in the part above the eye...
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My first impresion was Spectacled Warbler with that darker blue near the base of the bill and the white orbital ring (all of this through the screen of my mobile). Now, I'm looking at it in my computer and I still looking at a dirty white, at least, in the part above the eye...
White looks like highlight. If you look at the lower part it appears more obviously pinkish. Given the surrounding colours I think it's unlikely this is just a colour cast
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White looks like highlight. If you look at the lower part it appears more obviously pinkish. Given the surrounding colours I think it's unlikely this is just a colour cast
Not that the OP seems interested in still getting an ID (or even remembers his thread!) but it could be highlight although if you check the Opus link I posted above, the orbital ring in juveniles is pinkish and the eye-ring more buff white.
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Orbital eye-ring looks pinkish rather than whitish to my eye.

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Orbital eye-ring looks pinkish rather than whitish to my eye.

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The orbital ring and the eye ring are separate features. (The latter indeed whiter than the former)

when I am referring to the ‘orbital ring’ it is the one inside the ‘eye-ring’, ie the immediate surround of the eye. Perhaps there is some confusion of the topography here!
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