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Warbler, Nouakchott, Mauritania

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Old Saturday 9th September 2017, 17:07   #1
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Warbler, Nouakchott, Mauritania

Dear all,

Just another willow warbler?

I am trying hard to find iberian chiffchaff with no success

All help gratefully received.

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Old Saturday 9th September 2017, 18:16   #2
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some feedback off forum has been positive about underpart colours and wing length but especially bill colour. The latter is a feature I hadn't considered.

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I see a Willow allright. Breast tinged olive, long well-defined brows, very long looking pp projection, elongated shape, it all looks very Willow to me.
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Old Saturday 9th September 2017, 19:25   #4
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Willow for me too - in views like this I think an Iberian Chiffchaff would stand out for you.

Maybe they haven't reached you yet? Maybe they have a bit of a stopover in evergreen oak woodland in Morocco? Still birds here too.

I know Ib Chiffs have been rung south of Mauritania - what are the earliest trapping dates...anyone?
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According to birdlife, there are over 1 million iberian chiffchaff and unless they take a very indirect route they must pass through Mauritania to get to their wintering grounds which are in Senegal or western Mali. By odds I should see at least as many Iberian chiffchaff as willow warbler where I am. Only two things can be happening. Either the birds fly over Mauritania every year (unlikely) or Iberian chiffchaff are being over looked as willow warbler. Its a zero sum game! Here is another picture of the same bird.
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Only two things can be happening. Either the birds fly over Mauritania every year (unlikely) or Iberian chiffchaff are being over looked as willow warbler. Its a zero sum game! Here is another picture of the same bird.
Its for sure a Willow. I can't answer your question but agree they are likely overlooked a bit, could be flying over due to lack of denser habitats (?) ...and/or they haven't reached in numbers yet? It would be good to know the first capture dates - if there are any in the autumn?
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I think it is too early for Iberian Chiffchaffs in Mauritania, but they are soon coming. Your bird has definitely too long pp to be one.
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Thanks all

I will be at the same site next Saturday. It's a waste water site just north of the city and a wonderful migrant trap. I rarely use sound but I have downloaded the call. Let's see if anything responds.

This species simply must pass through in large numbers.
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Thanks all

I will be at the same site next Saturday. It's a waste water site just north of the city and a wonderful migrant trap. I rarely use sound but I have downloaded the call. Let's see if anything responds.

This species simply must pass through in large numbers.
I would expect the peak of Iberian Chiffchaffs in October, much later than the WW.
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I would expect the peak of Iberian Chiffchaffs in October, much later than the WW.
Do you get any passing through the Canaries?
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Do you get any passing through the Canaries?
It seems that there is no record, but I guess between the local Canary Islands Chiffchaffs and Common Chiffchaffs, few people care to look for them.

I based my comment on records from Morocco.
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I see - thanks.
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