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M. C. W. R. van Renesse van Duivenbode in Chalcopsitta duivenbodei

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Old Thursday 22nd August 2013, 14:02   #1
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M. C. W. R. van Renesse van Duivenbode in Chalcopsitta duivenbodei

I know that this matter were discussed on Bird Forum last year, on an old (now closed) thread. http://www.birdforum.net/showthread....ght=Duivenbode

In any case: Here´s the Type description of Chalcopsitta duivenbodei (Chalcopsittacus Duivenbodei) DUBOIS 1884.

Dubois, A. 1884. Description d’un Échidné et d’un Perroquet inédits de la Nouvelle-Guinée. Bulletin du Musée Royal d’Histoire Naturelle de Belgique/Mededeelingen van het Korinklijk Natuurhistorisch Museum van België 3: 109-114 (Plate 5).

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Il y a quelques mois, M. C. W. R. van Renesse van Duivenbode envoya á notre Musée, á titre de don, une magnifique collection de mammifières et d’oisseaux de la Nouvelle-Guinée. ...
"M. C. W. R. van Renesse van Duivenbode". The first "M." = Monsieur (Mr.). Is there anything else mentioned about him? No matter how small! Does any reader of Bird Forum with a better knowledge of language than mine feel like having a go at translating it?

Due to the maximum of five attached files in this forum, I have left out page 110 and 111 (it´s all about a newly discovered Echidna).

Original Work accessible at: http://www.biodiversitylibrary.org/i...e/127/mode/1up
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Old Thursday 22nd August 2013, 14:12   #2
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I know that this matter were discussed on Bird Forum last year, on an old (now closed) thread. http://www.birdforum.net/showthread....ght=Duivenbode...
Björn, such older threads are not closed. When posting a reply, it's just necessary to tick the box labelled "I am aware that this Thread is rather old but I still want to make a reply". (I frequently revive threads that have been inactive for several years.)
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Further to Richards statement: if it was important to have the additional two pages, then reply to your own post, hit go advanced, and you can attach another 5 files to the next post.

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Old Thursday 22nd August 2013, 15:19   #4
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Richard, I did tick the necessary box mentioned but my reply sure bounced back. Tvice! The same has happened several times with many other older threads that I´ve tried. That´s why I felt like I had to start a brand new thread ... on an old subject.

Sorry if this makes a mess. Next time I´ll try again ... the proper way.
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van Duivenbode is mentioned three times.

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Il y a quelques mois, M. C. W. R. van Renesse van Duivenbode envoya à notre Musée, à titre de don, une magnifique collection de mammifères et d'oiseaux de la Nouvelle-Guinée.
"A few months ago, Mr C. W. R. van Renesse van Duivenbode sent our Museum a wonderful collection of mammals and birds of New Guinea as a gift."

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L'animal étant encore jeune, j'ai pensé un instant que cette différence dans le poil n'était qu'une question d'âge ; mais M. van Duivenbode m'écrit qu'il possède de l'A. Bruynii un spécimen de même taille que celui qu'il vient d'envoyer au Musée, et qui offre déjà tous les caractères de l'adulte.
Dubois says Mr van Duivenbode has a specimen of A. Bruynii.

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La seconde espèce qui fait l'objet de cette notice, je propose de la dédier à M. van Duivenbode de qui nous la tenons, et de l'appeler : CHALCOPSITTACUS DUIVENBODEI
"The second species subject of this note, I propose to dedicate it to Mr van Duivenbode who gave it to us." There certainly is a better way to translate this last part, but the idea is that Chalcopsittacus duivenbodei is dedicated to C. W. R. van Duivenbode.
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Thumbs up Many thanks!

Olivier,
Merci! That makes digging on worthwhile.
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Constantijn Willem Rudolf van Renesse van Duivenbode (b. 1858) Dutch merchant of Ternate in the Moluccas, Director of the Dutch East India Co.
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Thank you James,

I´ve just came to the same conclusion. The search continues on Susan's original Duivenbode thread http://www.birdforum.net/showthread.php?t=236163

See you there!
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