Join for FREE
It only takes a minute!
Zeiss - Always on the lookout for something special – Shop now

Welcome to BirdForum.
BirdForum is the net's largest birding community, dedicated to wild birds and birding, and is absolutely FREE! You are most welcome to register for an account, which allows you to take part in lively discussions in the forum, post your pictures in the gallery and more.

Goa update ?

Reply
 
Thread Tools Rate Thread
Old Wednesday 30th November 2011, 14:48   #1
cheshirebirder
Registered User

 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: macclesfield
Posts: 967
Goa update ?

Was wondering if anyone's been out there recently? We're going back ,in just over a month,to the Baga/Arpora area and would love to know any up-to-date info. We failed on the pitta last time ( tried Arpora woods and Fort Aguada, but not the "shitta" site !). Also ,we were unable to access Baga fields due to flooding ,(Carambolin similar) but that was in early Nov.
Any info greatly appreciated,
Bill Turner.
cheshirebirder is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old Thursday 1st December 2011, 09:40   #2
Mark Newsome
Born to seawatch...
 
Mark Newsome's Avatar

 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: County Durham
Posts: 1,862
Quote:
Originally Posted by cheshirebirder View Post
Was wondering if anyone's been out there recently? We're going back ,in just over a month,to the Baga/Arpora area and would love to know any up-to-date info. We failed on the pitta last time ( tried Arpora woods and Fort Aguada, but not the "shitta" site !). Also ,we were unable to access Baga fields due to flooding ,(Carambolin similar) but that was in early Nov.
Any info greatly appreciated,
Bill Turner.
I've just returned from 2 weeks there, staying at the Marinha Dourada in Arpora. Fairly leisurely birding, but still plenty of good stuff to be found.

Baga fields - still a bit wet on the coastal side and behind the Beira Mar and a bit long grass in places, but much of it is easily accessible with sturdy boots. Some parts were being burnt as we left, so access will be easier shortly.

Indian Pitta - I didn't see any at Arpora in 2 or 3 attempts including at dawn. The old site at Sinquerim (“Pitta in the Shitta”), has totally changed since I was last there – now a small bridge over the stream, no water in the stream, no shady toilet bushes to attract birds. Looked a waste of time trying there.

Carambolim - the lake itself is much the same as recently (rather poor), but there are a series of flooded areas both before the Brown Hawk Owl wood and the other side of this wood. Plenty of potential here.

Siolim paddies - work had just been started in the 2nd week of December, and superb numbers of birds were being attracted. 1500 Small Pratincoles can't be wrong!

Fort Aguada - easy access due to much of the grass already having been burnt off. Excellent numbers of birds and great potential for finding migrants.

Highlights of my visit and of the Bird Holidays tour to Goa/Dandeli in the same 2 weeks (not including the more expected species):

Yellow Bittern – a juv on Arpora pools throughout
Asian Openbill – up to 50 at Siolim paddies
Spoonbill – juv at Siolim on 15th
Steppe Buzzard – singles at Morjim and Grand Island
White-eyed Buzzard – seen at Morjim, Grand Island, Aguada, nr Mapusa, nr Carambolim
Legge's Hawk Eagle - 1 at Dandeli on 21st
Greater Spotted Eagle – usual small numbers around Carambolim/Cumbarjua
Indian Spotted Eagle – seemed a bit scarcer than normal
Tawny Eagle - 6+ Neura on 16th (unusually high number)
Amur Falcon – I personally saw 25 in the 2 weeks, including 12 together over the Marinha Dourada at dusk one evening
Shaheen Falcon – pair at Dandeli on 23rd
Slaty-breasted Rail – present behind Beira Mar and on Arpora pools
Oystercatcher - 1 at Morjim
Small Pratincole – up to 1500 at Siolim, small numbers elsewhere
Black-tailed Godwit - 200 near Carambolim on 16th (high numbers)
Broad-billed Sand – 1 near Carambolim on 16th
Gulls – only 1-2 Great Black-headeds seen at Morjim, up to 100 barabensis and 10+ heuglini. No Slender-billed reported here yet.
River Tern – 10 at PV Dam, Dandeli on 22nd
Green Imperial Pigeon – 3 at Molem on 25th
Oriental Turtle Dove – 2 at Aguada on 21st
Jacobin Cuckoo – odd singles still around the coast
Blue-faced Malkoha – 2 showy birds at Arpora Woods
Brown Wood Owl – heard at Saligao on 12th but difficult to see
Brown Hawk Owl – present in the usual wood at Carambolim and also next to the lake itself
Indian Jungle Nightjar – 4 seen roosting in daylight at Maem Lake
Savanna Nightjar – 4 seen well at a plateau site nr Mapusa
Pacific Swift – 1 at Satpal arboretum on 24th and up to 5 at Arpora on 22nd-24th
Blue-eared Kingfisher – 1 at Tropical Spice Farm near Ponda on 20th and also reported from Bondla
Oriental Dwarf Kingfisher - 1 at Dandeli on 23rd and also reported from Bondla
Blue-bearded Bee-eater – 2 showing well at Maem lake
Common Flameback – pair at Dandeli on 23rd
Rufous-tailed Lark – reported from Divar just before I arrived
Brown-throated Sand martin – 1 at Carambolim on 16th
Brown Shrike – several single birds along the coast
Bay-backed Shrike – back in its usual trees behind the shacks at Morjim
Bluethroat – up to 8 in Baga fields
Isabelline Wheatear - 1 at Aguada on 19th
Red-breasted Flycatcher – 5+ at Fort Aguada on 21st
Taiga Flycatcher – 2 at Fort Aguada on 21st
Indian Scimitar Babbler – heard at Maem Lake
Pallas’s Grasshopper Warbler – at least 2 at the usual wintering area at Tikanem
Grasshopper Warbler – a migrant in Baga fields on 25th
Booted Warbler - 1 at Baga fields on 13th, 1 at Aguada on 19th
Yellow-browed Warbler – 1 at Dandeli
Tytler's Leaf Warbler - 1 at Dandeli on 22nd
Vigors's Sunbird – fairly easily seen around Arpora, Baga and Saligao (including one next to the Marinha Dourada restaurant)
Lesser Whitethroat – singles at Maem Lake and Dandeli (halimodendri types, not Hume’s)
Red-headed Bunting – 1 at Tamdi Surla on 25th and 1 at Anjuna around the same time
Tricoloured Munia – up to 150 at Carambolim grassland site on 16th
Streaked Weaver - min of 5, maybe more, with Baya Weavers at Carambolim grassland site on 16th
Lesser Hill Myna – several at Dandeli

I'll reopen the Goa thread here to try encourage others to post their sightings this winter.

Cheers,

Mark
Mark Newsome is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old Thursday 1st December 2011, 10:21   #3
cheshirebirder
Registered User

 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: macclesfield
Posts: 967
Thanks, Mark - that's excellent. We're back at the Marinha Dourada too and will post a report on our return towards the end of Jan.
cheers, Bill.
cheshirebirder is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old Thursday 1st December 2011, 10:33   #4
Gordon
Registered User

 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: Scotland
Posts: 792
One way of "getting" the Pitta might be to arrange for a stay at Backwoods Camp:
http://indianaturetours.com/news-from-the-field.html
http://www.backwoodsgoa.com/

I've seen Pitta whilst staying there. Also, in 2007 I found a Pitta up the track that leads up to Baga Hill that starts (started? - still there with the development that has been going on?) at the shrine towards the Arpora end of the road.

cheers
Gordon
Gordon is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old Thursday 1st December 2011, 11:01   #5
Mark Newsome
Born to seawatch...
 
Mark Newsome's Avatar

 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: County Durham
Posts: 1,862
Quote:
Originally Posted by Gordon View Post
One way of "getting" the Pitta might be to arrange for a stay at Backwoods Camp:
http://indianaturetours.com/news-from-the-field.html
http://www.backwoodsgoa.com/

I've seen Pitta whilst staying there. Also, in 2007 I found a Pitta up the track that leads up to Baga Hill that starts (started? - still there with the development that has been going on?) at the shrine towards the Arpora end of the road.

cheers
Gordon
I think a bit of luck is needed and being in suitable areas at dawn/dusk (and also being aware of their distinctive call). Pittas aren't that rare - several pairs breed in the Arpora valley in the wet season and they appear in many other coastal areas as well as at inland sites such as Backwoods. I've even seen one from the swimming pool terrace at the Beira Mar in the past.

Baga Hill - development and the road on top means it's not as productive as it was, but the forest on the southern side still looks good and I'm sure there will be similar species to Arpora with a bit of effort.
Mark Newsome is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old Sunday 4th December 2011, 21:22   #6
Steve Arlow
Registered User
 
Steve Arlow's Avatar

 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Southend
Posts: 1,532
I think there may be some name changes from my Grimmett India Field Guide as I don't recognise some of the names mentioned above:

Legge's Hawk Eagle -
Shaheen Falcon
Vigors's Sunbird –
Tricoloured Munia –

Presumably these are either altenative names or Indian Racial splits?

Also as I will be out there in a couple or three months where is the usual Pallas’s Grasshopper Warbler wintering area at Tikanem please. I may be a bit late at the end of February but you never know.

regards
__________________
Blog : stevearlowsbirding.blogspot.com
Steve Arlow is online now  
Reply With Quote
Old Monday 5th December 2011, 10:37   #7
Gordon
Registered User

 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: Scotland
Posts: 792
Steve,
GrimSkip treated:
Legge's Hawk-eagle - the Mountain Hawk Eagle Nisaetus (Spizaetus) nipalensis Hodgson included the allopatric Sri Lankan
and southern Indian taxon N. kelaarti (Legge) as a subspecies (GrimSkip plate 71).
Shaheen (F p peregrinator) is a race of Peregrine.
Vigor's Sunbird as a race of Crimson Sunbird (see plate 140).
Tricoloured Munia - sometimes considered conspecific with Chestnut Munia/Black-headed Munia (Lopnchura atricapilla) (GrimSkip plate 147) - note that GrimSkip names Black-headed Munia Lonchura malaca and uses atricapilla for the sub-species whereas Rasmussen uses atricapilla for Chestnut(Black-headed) Munia.

cheers
Gordon
Gordon is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old Monday 5th December 2011, 13:12   #8
Steve Arlow
Registered User
 
Steve Arlow's Avatar

 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Southend
Posts: 1,532
Excellent, many thanks for the update on those

regards
__________________
Blog : stevearlowsbirding.blogspot.com
Steve Arlow is online now  
Reply With Quote
Old Monday 5th December 2011, 13:38   #9
Mark Newsome
Born to seawatch...
 
Mark Newsome's Avatar

 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: County Durham
Posts: 1,862
Quote:
Originally Posted by Steve Arlow View Post
...Also as I will be out there in a couple or three months where is the usual Pallas’s Grasshopper Warbler wintering area at Tikanem please. I may be a bit late at the end of February but you never know.

regards
Tikanem is a small village coming from Maem Lake towards Chorao Island, just as you've descended the hills and hit the flat open country/marsh. The Pallas's Grasshoppers winter in the reedbeds here. I've seen them mainly on the right hand side of the road (heading towards Chorao), where the scrubby reeds meet the acacia lined road, in the first 100 metres of reedbed. There are a few gaps in the trees where you can get to reed/water level. Without a tape, it could be a long wait. With a tape, decent views within a minute - they sang back and showed very quickly and quite well.

Pallas's Groppers aren't really supposed to be wintering in Goa. However, I've seen them at this site for a good few years (after first discovered there by Paul Holt/Hannu Jannes), and there is a lot of similar habitat in this area. There could be quite a sizeable wintering population, but they seem restricted to this part of Goa.

Photo of a Pallas's Gropper here:
http://www.surfbirds.com/media/galle...1127053618.jpg

Google Map link:
http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?q=Goa,...India&t=h&z=19
The area is the north side of the road, between the bridge and the house.

Cheers,
Mark
Mark Newsome is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old Monday 5th December 2011, 17:17   #10
Steve Arlow
Registered User
 
Steve Arlow's Avatar

 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Southend
Posts: 1,532
Many thanks for those directions, I'll have a root around and see if I have PGTips recording somewhere

regards
__________________
Blog : stevearlowsbirding.blogspot.com
Steve Arlow is online now  
Reply With Quote
Old Monday 5th December 2011, 18:32   #11
Stuart Ling
Registered User

 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Ipswich,
Posts: 54
Away from Tikanem, i've encountered Pallas's Gropper twice on Baga Fields, both in November so quite likely to be migrants - although it is feasible that they could winter in the area. On both occasions single birds were seen in a stand of juncus on the east side of the fields, adjacent to the river.

I agree with Mark's comments about Pittas - they are by no means rare. I have seen them at a wide variety of sites, from the beach at Baga through to the Western Ghats. All the wooded ridges around Baga, Arpora and Saligao hold wintering birds but this is not to say they are easily found. As Mark rightly points out, learning the call helps but I have come across many by quietly walking through suitable habitat listening for the sound of leaves being overturned on the forest floor and waiting patiently for the perpetrator to reveal itself. Invariably it will prove to be an Orange-headed Thrush or Blackbird but I have had excellent views of pittas, butonquails Red Spurfowl, Emerald Doves and other goodies by persevering with this technique.

regards

Stuart
Stuart Ling is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old Wednesday 7th December 2011, 23:10   #12
sneil
Registered User

 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: North Suffolk
Posts: 136
Bit of advice, please...in March next my wife and myself are doing the 'round Rajasthan' tour bit taking in Delhi, Ranthambore (safari), Bharatpur (day at Keoladeo), Jaipur, Agra, Jodphur, Udaipur....we finish up with a couple of full days in Goa (Candolim)-18/19 March. As my wife (not a birder) wants to chill, I might be able to sneak off for a day/day and a half for birding....given the short duration available, would anyone be able to recommend which of the many sites I should aim for (say 2 or 3) to give a flavour of Goan birding? (yep, appreciate I'm probably not doing it justice, given the info above...but having done 3 weeks in the country hopefully will already have a good range of species by the time we hit Goa).
Many thanks
sneil is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old Thursday 8th December 2011, 21:29   #13
schiffornis
AWBirder
 
schiffornis's Avatar

 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: North Duffield, UK
Posts: 797
I went to Goa 2/3 years ago and had 3 displaying male Indian Pitta on the access road to Bondla, showed very well (phone pic attached)... Great place.
Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	AWBirderGOAIndianPitta.jpg
Views:	44
Size:	34.3 KB
ID:	360041  
__________________
Andy Walker http://awbirder.blogspot.com Follow me on Twitter/Facebook: @AWBirder
Latest Blog Posts:
Australia Birding Trip Report
schiffornis is offline  
Reply With Quote
Advertisement
Reply


Thread Tools
Rate This Thread
Rate This Thread:

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is Off
HTML code is Off

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Help with I.Ds from Goa tonyath Bird Identification Q&A 1 Wednesday 16th December 2009 15:10
Help with id please - GOA hancock Bird Identification Q&A 4 Tuesday 25th March 2008 14:52
Hello from Goa ajay890 Say Hello 8 Wednesday 26th September 2007 01:49
Osprey Update Update dicklynch Birds Of Prey 1 Monday 7th June 2004 20:23
Goa bill_fordham India 3 Wednesday 4th June 2003 13:52

{googleads}

Fatbirder's Top 1000 Birding Websites

Help support BirdForum

Page generated in 0.21433902 seconds with 26 queries
All times are GMT. The time now is 22:14.