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Old Friday 26th June 2020, 19:57   #976
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But my real objection is simply that the scheme is reminiscent of chavs en route from Essex to the Costa del Lager ,
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That's funny but true, there are elements of garishness if its scrutinised.

Ah well, I was spoilt with Victor's, VC1Os, Vulcans in a myriad of shades and colour schemes. I can but dream on nostalgia.
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We have 14 Voyagers, which thanks to the absurd leasing policy are not all available, a number being in use as airliners and unavailable to the RAF (who can get them repainted and redelivered to service if necessary: define necessary....) The whole of the RAF transport and tanker force that is available is worked as hard as any airliner. Try watching ADSB Exchange for a few days and see how active Brize Norton is as a hub.

Working military staff do not get the benefit of huge aircraft to do long haul these days. Only Boris will.

The states you name have strict airliners as VIP transports, not more expensive tanker/transports running down operational fatigue life. One reason we don't is being strapped for cash: which is as good a reason as any to only use standard airliners even if they have to be chartered in entirety for the odd Prime Ministerial tour of the further reaches of the globe.

But my real objection is simply that the scheme is reminiscent of chavs en route from Essex to the Costa del Lager rather than a hundred years of one of the most respected and effective military forces on the planet or even "the world's favourite airline" any of whose retro schemes are better than this one.

I hope to goodness nobody in Whitehall decides the tail is so cool that it should replace the Red Arrows' current empennage scheme! John
I've seen claims on non-aviation sites that the Union flag motif is upside down....?
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I've seen claims on non-aviation sites that the Union flag motif is upside down....?
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There's an explanation on Aviation news from an RAF spokesperson saying it's based on the leading edge of the rudder tailfin, being seen as the flagstaff.
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There's an explanation on Aviation news from an RAF spokesperson saying it's based on the leading edge of the rudder tailfin, being seen as the flagstaff.
That may go down well with those with good spatial perception...!
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Did anyone see The RAF C-17 Milatary Plane Flyover today? It was aparantly doing training with essentials I wasn't aware of it until I was emptying the dishwasher and saw it fly past heading to the airport, about 5-10 minutes later I saw it fly past my bedroom door. The locations were Edinburgh, Birmingham & Newcastle.
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Old Tuesday 30th June 2020, 16:36   #981
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Did anyone see The RAF C-17 Milatary Plane Flyover today? It was aparantly doing training with essentials I wasn't aware of it until I was emptying the dishwasher and saw it fly past heading to the airport, about 5-10 minutes later I saw it fly past my bedroom door. The locations were Edinburgh, Birmingham & Newcastle.
They are taking advantage of the low levels of air traffic to do familiarisation training at various airports from the Channel Islands to Sumburgh. Both C-17s and A400Ms have been turning up all over the place. I'm not sure if they've been in and out of Heathrow but certainly Gatwick and Stansted, Birmingham, Manchester.

It gives the controllers at the airports some continuation training as well.

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I live to one side of the flight path into Manchester and we've seen lots of military traffic, it’s been fascinating
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Getting withdrawal symptoms as no RIAT and aroma of Avgas from the fast jets. I stand on tippy toes when they're carrying out handling practice OTT. Closest were a couple of MC130Js last night. Might have to mosey on down to Lakenheath when the runway is repaired.
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Did anyone see The RAF C-17 Milatary Plane Flyover today? It was aparantly doing training with essentials I wasn't aware of it until I was emptying the dishwasher and saw it fly past heading to the airport, about 5-10 minutes later I saw it fly past my bedroom door. The locations were Edinburgh, Birmingham & Newcastle.
Did it get in through an open window....!
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Oh ya. If it has wings, count me in. I flew RC airplanes for 5 years. Too much fun. Birds are free. Yes.!!
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Dad's Super Connie getting a bath... San Francisco, 1961.
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Dad's Super Connie getting a bath... San Francisco, 1961.
Is the mess all over it the cleanser or was it really that filthy?

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Old Friday 17th July 2020, 23:31   #988
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Queen of the Skies retired today by British Airways. Is it really 49 years ago I saw my first BOAC Jumbo coming into Heathrow as I finished school? Another victim of Corona virus! I know things have changed, passenger numbers, efficiency etc. but those 70s airlines had class... DC8, 707, Caravelle, Comets and VC10s. I wanna be 10 years old again.
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Queen of the Skies retired today by British Airways. Is it really 49 years ago I saw my first BOAC Jumbo coming into Heathrow as I finished school? Another victim of Corona virus! I know things have changed, passenger numbers, efficiency etc. but those 70s airlines had class... DC8, 707, Caravelle, Comets and VC10s. I wanna be 10 years old again.
All right, any excuse: a couple of shots of G-BYGC in the BOAC retro scheme coming out of Heathrow, photographed from Stanwell Moor: literally the last week before work sent me home and told me to stay there.

(Incidentally, talking of the Comet, have you noticed the line of the 787's nose? A belated admission from Boeing that de Havilland got it exactly right, if you ask me.)

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Exclamation Caspian Sea Monster !

Lordy be what a machine !!

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[quote=Chosun Juan;4034819]Lordy be what a machine !!
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=V8Nu94khHoo
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And its missile launching cousin. Those designers were on some serious potato vodka!

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=x22nVFTd8nI
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There was an excellent 1 hour-ish documentary about the ekranoplan on cable TV a few years ago - very instructive. They were trying to build a civilian version, basically for the wealthy bloke who would havd a big power boat but wants something very different.
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Hard to imagine but it’s the 20th Anniversary of The Concorde Air France 4590 fatal crash in France. I sort of remember seeing it on the news I was shocked. There was a documentary about it on Channel 5 on Thursday which I've yet to watch.
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Difficult for me to watch as I grew up watching the various tests before she took to the skies. We could hear the afterburners as she took off from Heathrow ( if the wind was Easterly ) and came over our house. Sad end as there was so much promise, but once the various countries banned the plane from their airspace her days were numbered. Beautiful design and fortunate to hear her sonic boom West of the Isles of Scilly.
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Difficult for me to watch as I grew up watching the various tests before she took to the skies. We could hear the afterburners as she took off from Heathrow ( if the wind was Easterly ) and came over our house. Sad end as there was so much promise, but once the various countries banned the plane from their airspace her days were numbered. Beautiful design and fortunate to hear her sonic boom West of the Isles of Scilly.
I wonder if we were on the same trip Pat?
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I wonder if we were on the same trip Pat?
Most likely Andy. First sonic boom was after'92? Comin off Scillonian and straight up to The Garrison for Northern Parula. Have to check my notes. Closest I got to Concorde was having a drink with one of the stewardesses. But I think they opened up the throttle taps on Concorde once past the I.O.S. Usually mid morning I recall, if en route to New York.
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Most likely Andy. First sonic boom was after'92? Comin off Scillonian and straight up to The Garrison for Northern Parula. Have to check my notes. Closest I got to Concorde was having a drink with one of the stewardesses. But I think they opened up the throttle taps on Concorde once past the I.O.S. Usually mid morning I recall, if en route to New York.
I think mine was 94 or 95.....
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Two weekends ago the 2020 British airshow season finally got going courtesy of the brilliant Shuttleworth Trust who managed to create the world's first drive-in socially distanced airshow, limiting numbers but cleverly parking cars with spacing to allow those in them to socialise separated from other groups by a car on each side and all have a decent view of the show.

So with relief and delight my brother, his son and I booked a ticket and shot off to Old Warden....

The show was opened by Spitfire PR XI PL983 sporting some entirely apposite wording under the wings.

Gliding with the best possible view: Elliot Primary EoN

One of a variety of British Inter-war tourers, the Parnall Elf

RAF's basic trainer during WWII (along with the Tiger Moth of course)

Tommy Sopwith's second single-seat scout of WWI - and yes, this is where Fokker got the idea for a triplane!
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And, of course, some more:

De Havilland 88 Comet (winner of the 1934 London to Melbourne race) and Percival Mew Gull (which broke the London to Capetown record) - in each case, yes, this actual aircraft

Comet again X 2. Just because.

Avro Tutor: pre-WWII RAF basic trainer

De Havilland Canada Chipmunk - the Canadian division's first indigenous design and used by the RAF not only for introductory training but also to give many Air Cadets their first real flying with the Air Experience Flights. And, in true DH tradition, its pretty.
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And to finish off:

Barnstorming: De Havilland Tiger Moth limbo dancing

Dusk Patrol 1: Hawker Sea Hurricane getting airborne as the sky colours up in the evening

Dusk Patrol 2: the classic Sopwith Camel displaying in the early dusk

Break, break: Spitfire and Hurricane breaking across each other against the evening sky

Shuttleworth's Spitfire LF Vc shows off its clipped wings at the start of a victory roll in one of the last bursts of evening sunshine.
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