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Warbler or hemispingus? Central Peru

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Old Sunday 5th July 2020, 17:17   #1
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Warbler or hemispingus? Central Peru

Hi,

I've been looking at this photo from a few months ago, taken in Pasco, central Peru, about 2400 masl.
I originally had it down as a pale-legged warbler, but the bill looks quite thick, and now I'm wondering if it might not rather be an oleaginous hemispingus?
What say the experts (THE_FERN maybe)?

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Old Sunday 5th July 2020, 17:36   #2
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I think you are right. compare for example with
https://www.birdforum.net/gallery/sh...p?photo=639863 (warbler)
https://macaulaylibrary.org/asset/43...267.1582678996 (Hemispingus)

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Well thanks for calling me an expert: not sure how true that is...

Yes hemispingus for the reason you said, but also supercilium not bright enough for the warblers, and we can just about make out grey legs (or at least not clearly pinkish /orangish). Pale-legged would be much brighter overall and especially so underneath in comparison with this. A pretty good photo of a bird I've mostly only had poor or distant views of
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Well thanks for calling me an expert: not sure how true that is...

Yes hemispingus for the reason you said, but also supercilium not bright enough for the warblers, and we can just about make out grey legs (or at least not clearly pinkish /orangish). Pale-legged would be much brighter overall and especially so underneath in comparison with this. A pretty good photo of a bird I've mostly only had poor or distant views of
Which brings me to saying that the original photo would be welcome into the gallery here in Birdforum

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Many thanks to you both! And I'll upload the photo to the gallery.

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Nice photo, agree with Oleaginous Hemispingus.

I too have a Hemispingus that I've never seen particularly well - Three-striped. On the list to try to get a better view of if I ever get back to where it is!
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Nice photo, agree with Oleaginous Hemispingus.

I too have a Hemispingus that I've never seen particularly well - Three-striped. On the list to try to get a better view of if I ever get back to where it is!
Hi Josh

We don't have any image of the Three-striped Hemispingus in the Gallery or The Opus as yet. Would you be prepared to let it sit in the article until a clearer ones come in (even if only part of the bird is visible it could prove useful)?
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An oily half-spingus . . . is this for real? Whoever came up with a name like that!
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Unfortunately I don't have a photo of Three-striped Hemispingus to contribute - I barely saw it, much less photographed it! :)

Nutcracker - I agree it's a bit of an odd name, not the most poetic nor the most evocative but it is memorable!
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An oily half-spingus . . . is this for real? Whoever came up with a name like that!
Someone who knew why waxwings were called waxwings...?
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