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Old Sunday 26th April 2020, 19:56   #1
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Tip No. 1: Don't read The Grauniad!

You can bird to whatever extent, wherever* or however you like. Just don't treat this article as gospel.

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/lifestyle/...cid=spartandhp

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* Well, not at the moment you can't.
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Tip No. 2. Don't read MSN's version of a Guardian article:
https://www.theguardian.com/lifeands...ckyard-birding
Although we should perhaps go back to the Medium for the original:
https://medium.com/@snailseyeview/ba...s-97ac35ad73db
Didn't seem like that bad an article for beginners to me, albeit mainly aimed at an Australian audience. Although the stuff about hides is a bit excessive.
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Old Monday 27th April 2020, 06:21   #3
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Tip No. 2. Don't read MSN's version of a Guardian article:
https://www.theguardian.com/lifeands...ckyard-birding
Although we should perhaps go back to the Medium for the original:
https://medium.com/@snailseyeview/ba...s-97ac35ad73db
Didn't seem like that bad an article for beginners to me, albeit mainly aimed at an Australian audience. Although the stuff about hides is a bit excessive.
Describing bins as non-essential is how to make people frustrated, bored and turned off really quickly. Setting people up to fail isn't smart.

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Describing bins as non-essential is how to make people frustrated, bored and turned off really quickly. Setting people up to fail isn't smart.

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Telling people that they can't watch birds unless they have binoculars is the way to ensure they won't get turned on to birding in the first place.
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Telling people that they can't watch birds unless they have binoculars is the way to ensure they won't get turned on to birding in the first place.
Not convinced of that. And any old pair will do at least for starters - same cost as a hardback book will get you off the mark.

But the real reason I didn't like the article was that it was couched in "birdwatchers are weird" terms rather than just selling it in a sensible way.

And what's this "LBB"? Everyone I've ever spoken to of whatever nationality says "LBJ" - Little Brown Job - and one of the reasons for that is birder humour and the association with other small brown Richard the Thirds.

Now where's my copy of How to be a Bad Birdwatcher?

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Not convinced of that. And any old pair will do at least for starters - same cost as a hardback book will get you off the mark.

But the real reason I didn't like the article was that it was couched in "birdwatchers are weird" terms rather than just selling it in a sensible way.

And what's this "LBB"? Everyone I've ever spoken to of whatever nationality says "LBJ" - Little Brown Job - and one of the reasons for that is birder humour and the association with other small brown Richard the Thirds.

Now where's my copy of How to be a Bad Birdwatcher?

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It's obviously possible to get hold of a pair of bins but it's equally possible to start watching and listening to birds without them. I know of people who are interested in and quite knowledgeable about birds who don't own a pair of binoculars.

I think the main emphasis in the article is that you can take up birding in lots of different ways and there isn't just one way of doing it. You can even do it without binoculars if you wish. It's more 'birders are varied' than 'birders are weird' to my eyes.
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What's wrong with being weird?
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Nothing - unless you feel that what you do is less weird than e.g. standing in the rain watching 22 grown men kicking a ball round a field. Then you might think that being presented as weird is unfair.

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And what's this "LBB"?
"Little Brown Bird" . . . . i.e., 'Dunnock' translated into modern English
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"Little Brown Bird" . . . . i.e., 'Dunnock' translated into modern English
Ah! You mean LBJ - which gives it a certain relevant spin....

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Footballers aren't weird, they kick a ball around for 90 minutes, sometimes in bad weather like a bit of rain, and get paid a million bucks. We stand around in the rain for days at a time sometimes just to get a photo.
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Footballers aren't weird, they kick a ball around for 90 minutes, sometimes in bad weather like a bit of rain, and get paid a million bucks. We stand around in the rain for days at a time sometimes just to get a photo.
I didn't say footballers are weird. Football fans are weird!

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Isn't that the truth! Unless, they're Man U supporters of course :p
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