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Swarovski nl 8x32 (1 Viewer)
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Since Swaro has been kicking all the other alpha's butts for years in the sales and service categories, I'd say you're way off base with your assessment. If they were a two or three year wonderboy it would be different, but they're not. They consistently beat all of their competition to the punch.
Mac308
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Unknowingly, you made my point.
tenex
reality-based
On second thought I want to revise this opinion. Normally a line of binoculars is introduced as such, so it does seem doutful to expect more models in the future when this has only ever happened with the SF. (Or does anyone know of another instance?)
But I am going to hold my money, if not my breath. NL 32 would interest and serve me much better than SF 32 (or NL 42), so I'm willing to wait and hope for it, enjoying my UVHD+ in the meantime.
CharleyBird
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Perhaps Swaro will upgrade to a wider bar of soap, nicer feeling badger bristle brush; and include a mini-shampoo with matching perfume bottle of Eau de Bourgeoisie
Gijs van Ginkel
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The SLC range does not have any 32 m binocular and why should Swarovski make an 8x32 NL when the 8x and 10x 32 EL-SV are still very much in demand and appreciated?
Gijs van Ginkel
Gijs van Ginkel
PYRTLE
Old Berkshire Boy
To satisfy a customer demand for new and exciting products, and continue to be a leader as a successful sports optic business. The issue is not that the 32mm EL - SV is no longer a wonderful instrument, but that maybe there now exists a new binocular that performs noticably better than anything before. It's also a popular format according to a BF poll.
A2GG
Beth
pbjosh
missing the neotropics
By this logic the NL42 was unnecessary...
Gijs van Ginkel
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pbjosh, post49,
I do not know if your analysis is correct. It is kind of a gamble for a company to introduce new models and to be sure that the gamble does not bring about too many risks, a solid company does its homework well by performing good consumer research to find out if making a new model can/will be succesful (and if it is worth all the investments). As yet I have not seen any sign that this is the case for an NL32 despite eager posters here. But not every poster here is a customer and the amount of reactions would probably not be enough for Swarovski to walk that path, but future will tell us.
Gijs van Ginkel
I do not know if your analysis is correct. It is kind of a gamble for a company to introduce new models and to be sure that the gamble does not bring about too many risks, a solid company does its homework well by performing good consumer research to find out if making a new model can/will be succesful (and if it is worth all the investments). As yet I have not seen any sign that this is the case for an NL32 despite eager posters here. But not every poster here is a customer and the amount of reactions would probably not be enough for Swarovski to walk that path, but future will tell us.
Gijs van Ginkel
Vespobuteo
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The new 8x32 SF:s are 2400€ and the 8x42 SF:s are about the same.
With the same price logic a 8x32 NL would cost 2900€.
At least I wouldn't pay that for a 8x32...
The market might be too small for premium 8x32:s and 42mm bins are still the bulk in sales I assume.
With the same price logic a 8x32 NL would cost 2900€.
At least I wouldn't pay that for a 8x32...
The market might be too small for premium 8x32:s and 42mm bins are still the bulk in sales I assume.
PYRTLE
Old Berkshire Boy
The Birdforum binocular format poll results showed the top 3 as....
8 or 8.5 x 42 = 33.53%
8 x 32 = 21.66%
10 x 42 = 13.9%
We need to factor in that hunters and stalkers probably prefer 42mm and above and are unlikely to be represented in this set of results.
AlanFrench
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tenex
reality-based
Exactly, although one can't really guess what logic applies in Absam. I wouldn't have crippled the close focus first on the SLC and then EL myself (who else has ever done that?), but since these lines have now been clearly relegated to the status of legacy classics with NL as the new top dog, NL 32 at least would make a lot of sense. And since we know they read this forum, we can express interest and see what happens.
In any case I'm looking forward to understanding the NL optical design better.
P.S. Beth and Gijs, I've always assumed the CL 30 sort of substitutes for an SLC 32 because hunters are less interested in small glass. But I think/hope NL is meant to appeal to everyone.
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Vespobuteo
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Yes, good point, in total, 42mm bins (or larger) might be 75% or even more of Swaros total sales.
And the 8x32 EL SV is probably not ready to be replaced yet. I think it was launched 2 years after the 42mm EL SV.
So I guess we'll have to wait for the 32mm NL at least 2 years.
See, you have something to look forward to in 2 years
Or you could settle for that inferior SF thing from Zeiss for a couple of years, a horrible thought, a bit like having to eat a plate of smoked salmon as a starter because the main dish will take 20 minutes to prepare.
Edmund
AlanFrench
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Maybe we don't need a wider field of view, but I am sure the marketing folks are working hard to make us believe we do!
I'm going hoping to be content with an 8-degree field. Fortunately, there is no longer a local store where I can see and be tempted by new offerings.
Clear skies, Alan
I'm going hoping to be content with an 8-degree field. Fortunately, there is no longer a local store where I can see and be tempted by new offerings.
Clear skies, Alan
Maybe we don't need a wider field of view, but I am sure the marketing folks are working hard to make us believe we do!
I'm going hoping to be content with an 8-degree field. Fortunately, there is no longer a local store where I can see and be tempted by new offerings.
Clear skies, Alan
You could suspend your ISP contract, then your savings would be safe - until you see a nice car
Edmund
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