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Roadside Hawk or Grey Hawk in Mexico

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Old Wednesday 25th October 2006, 15:46   #1
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Roadside Hawk or Grey Hawk in Mexico

Hello,

In august I made a trip through Yucatan and Chiapas in Mexico.
In the Palenque/Campeche area I took four photos of hawks.
I indentified the hawks as Grey Hawks. But Cuckooroller (member of BF) pointed too me that the hawks could be Roadside Hawks.

What do you think?
Here are the pictures

http://www.pbase.com/steenl/image/67587265
http://www.pbase.com/steenl/image/68836544
http://www.pbase.com/steenl/image/67587264
http://www.pbase.com/steenl/image/68836540

Thanks again,

Lennaert Steen from the Netherlands
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Old Wednesday 25th October 2006, 16:02   #2
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i don't know what a grey hawk juv looks like (not sure for example what iris colour is), but i think the streaked breast/ barred belly combination is good for roadside hawk?...

edit; have just found a pic of a juv grey hawk with a dark iris, therefore as these birds have yellow irises i reckon they can't be grey hawks!!

think roadside hawk is correct

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Old Wednesday 25th October 2006, 16:28   #3
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Check the pattern on the underparts, face and darker iris in juv. Grey Hawk.

http://www.schmoker.org/BirdPics/Raptors.html

http://www.mangoverde.com/wbg/picpages/pic30-173-7.html

http://www.greglasley.net/roadhawk.html

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Old Wednesday 25th October 2006, 18:42   #4
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Hola Leannert,

I think Cuckooroller is right. They look like Roadside Hawk to me.
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Old Thursday 26th October 2006, 02:15   #5
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For the 2nd photo - juvenile Roadside - note heavy streaking in breast.
For the 4th photo - adult Roadside - note the dark breast and thicker belly bands.
For the 1rst, 3rd photo (same bird?) - I'm not as confident but also look like juvenile Roadside (heavier breast streaking, and wider tail bands than expected in juvenile Gray.
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Old Thursday 26th October 2006, 06:56   #6
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Hello Guys,

Thanks for your comments.
So all the hawks are Roadside Hawks. I will change the names on my website.
Unfortunatly I didn't take any photos of adult or juvenile Grey hawks.

@David. Yes, picture 1 and 3 is the same bird. The other two are two different birds.

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