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Old Thursday 25th June 2015, 08:23   #51
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Jerry,

I'd agree a nice little binocular.

Until recently my main issue with the Prostaff 7s 8x30 was that it was 4/5th of the Monarch 7 8x30's price over here. I've compared the two a couple of times and there is no doubt the M7 is much the better binocular and more than worth the 50 extra at UK prices. However the Prostaff prices have dropped dramatically and it can be found at half the price (or less) of the M7. I now see it as a much better proposition as an inexpensive car binocular or for sightseeing, sports events etcetera where I wouldn't want to risk pricier glass. I found it just as sharp and possibly more glare resistant than the M7. OK the FOV and colour aren't great but it is a much better binocular than many others at that price level IMO.

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Old Friday 26th June 2015, 19:37   #52
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I wanted to upgrade my Hawke 8x25 & was going to buy one of these but Albinos 4 out of 10 for CA control did the damage and the measly 114m fov but mostly the CA.

I couldn't live with that, of course assuming Albinos is accurate here?
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Old Friday 26th June 2015, 20:14   #53
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I wanted to upgrade my Hawke 8x25 & was going to buy one of these but Albinos 4 out of 10 for CA control did the damage and the measly 114m fov but mostly the CA.

I couldn't live with that, of course assuming Albinos is accurate here?
Clive,

At around 100 (if you shop around), I can forgive a few shortcomings. It actually reminds me of the old Monarch MkII/III but maybe just a bit better on CA, FOV and sharpness.

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I don't like CA unless it's minimal and 4 out of 10 doesn't sound very minimal except on score. It sounds quite bad as I understand scores.

My Hawke is a quite amazing 10/10 for CA control (even better than my larger bins) so it would seem to count this 7s out no matter the cost and my Hawke cost a lot less. I don't think I could go from none to comparatively a lot but I suppose I'd have to see it myself to really know but it's to much uncertainty to bother.

Now if they would drop the price to around um 10.... well.... maybe?

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Just give me a free pair and I'll test them and possibly lie about the result if necessary.

Otherwise it does look like a good little package and I assume the same nice focus as the M7.

Just thought to check the Albinos review for the M7 8x30 and it gets 7.8 (surprisingly accurate to a 10th) for CA and I would agree pretty much exactly with that based on my M7 10x30. I was thinking 7.5 for that or 8 to round it off and 9 for my Sapphire 8x43.

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I wanted to upgrade my Hawke 8x25 & was going to buy one of these but Albinos 4 out of 10 for CA control did the damage and the measly 114m fov but mostly the CA.

I couldn't live with that, of course assuming Albinos is accurate here?

I didnt see any CA in the 10X30 sample I tried. But then again I wasnt looking for it. If I'm not looking for it, and dont see it, then for me it doesnt exist.
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Old Saturday 27th June 2015, 07:21   #56
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This thread needs an update. I have recently purchased the 8x30 Prostaff 7S, and want to
give a small review of this binocular.

As noted above this is an updated Prostaff model and the S, means shorter than the original
Prostaff 42mm sizes.

There are things I like about the Prostaff 7, it has a nice, bright and contrasty view. What a nice
small binocular, Nikon does things right, with nice fit and finish and a very nice focuser.
We often hear about those that have used the Monarch 7 8x30, and I have not had a chance to
handle one of those. But, I have tested these for stray or direct light handling issues, and I find them
to do just fine.

Some specs. are a rather narrow FOV of 6.5*, with a view of 343' at 1,000 yds. Very nice and lightweight
only 14.6 oz. with nice armor and handling.
Allbinos has recently done a review of this model, so check it out if interested.
I agree with their findings.

These are found in the under $200. price range. Much more enjoyable to handle and use than any
high end 8x20 or 10x25 binocular that I have used.

My picture that is attached shows how small these are compared to a Zeiss 5x10 Miniquick, Leica 10x25
Trinovid, and a Swaro. 8x30 CL.
The CL does offer a better view, but it should at 5 times the price.

For those looking for a nice inexpensive 8x30, this one is one I will recommend.

Jerry

Hi Jerry, if you still follow this as an owner of this model I would be interested in your thoughts on CA with the 7s.

You say you agree with Albinos. Does that then include their 4/10 CA figure?

I'm pretty susceptible to CA so I imagine it would stand out a lot for me in fact if there were very much more in my M7 then that would have been a no no. It's the weakest point of the M7 for me and it's still in the good or very good range. I would accept a little more in a cheaper model but I think it would be to much for me with the 7s which is a pity.

I think I can cope with some occasional glare more easily so seems I would be better to go for the M7 8x30. Seems to much of a gap between the 7s & M7 regarding CA and fov as well as dielectric coating so I think for me it has to be worth saving and going the M7 route for best value in the longer term. Only my thoughts on it but it really did put me off hitting the order button at the last moment as the price certainly seems reasonable in some instances and it seems to get positive feedback from everyone who has tried it.

Actually it probably doesn't matter anyhow. I think I would need/desire the extra 30m or so fov of the M7.

Beautiful morning. Think I will take the M7 10x30 for a stroll and just remembered the M7 10x30 has a wider fov than the 8x 7s, 117m verses 114!

CA control of about 7/10 and say 122m fov and I think I'd have gone for the 7s.

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Hi Jerry, if you still follow this as an owner of this model I would be interested in your thoughts on CA with the 7s.

You say you agree with Albinos. Does that then include their 4/10 CA figure?

I'm pretty susceptible to CA so I imagine it would stand out a lot for me in fact if there were very much more in my M7 then that would have been a no no. It's the weakest point of the M7 for me and it's still in the good or very good range. I would accept a little more in a cheaper model but I think it would be to much for me with the 7s which is a pity.

I think I can cope with some occasional glare more easily so seems I would be better to go for the M7 8x30. Seems to much of a gap between the 7s & M7 regarding CA and fov as well as dielectric coating so I think for me it has to be worth saving and going the M7 route for best value in the longer term. Only my thoughts on it but it really did put me off hitting the order button at the last moment as the price certainly seems reasonable in some instances and it seems to get positive feedback from everyone who has tried it.

Actually it probably doesn't matter anyhow. I think I would need/desire the extra 30m or so fov of the M7.

Beautiful morning. Think I will take the M7 10x30 for a stroll and just remembered the M7 10x30 has a wider fov than the 8x 7s, 117m verses 114!

CA control of about 7/10 and say 122m fov and I think I'd have gone for the 7s.
Clive:

There is some visible CA in this model. You can see it if you look
for it. I don't find it an issue though in normal use.
The rating of a 4 out of 10 is accurate. That means it is a little
below average. I hope this helps.

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Old Saturday 27th June 2015, 18:49   #58
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Clive:

There is some visible CA in this model. You can see it if you look
for it. I don't find it an issue though in normal use.
The rating of a 4 out of 10 is accurate. That means it is a little
below average. I hope this helps.

Jerry
Thank you very much Jerry. It helps indeed. Good also to have Albinos figures corroborated.
Saves me ordering and returning again.
I returned the E2 and I would give it a 6.5 for CA and by rights I should round it up to 7. Seems here I disagree with Albinos as they award 7.5 but they obviously didn't see the massive purple oak tree that I did. In that particular instance I would have to give it zero basically.

Enjoyed today out with the M7 10x30 even though there were all sorts of difficult sun angles and had no problem with glare.

I was particularly impressed with how bright they were when viewing along a tree covered river so that I could check if the Kingfishers were fledging but the parent was still feeding. The extra 10x mag was helpful here also. Actually sometimes I forget I'm using a 10x as the view is quite wide and I'm very used to my 142m fov Sapphire 8x43.

This M7 10x30 probably is my Hawke Frontier PC 8x25 upgrade so I should probably pack in the messing around and I still have the small Hawke as a great fold up bin if I ever need such a thing.

I do fondly remember my Zeiss 8x32 FL for it's compactness and wide field so I suppose the M7 8x tempts me from that point of view but then I have the Sapphire 8x43 which can basically do the same thing only it's quite a lot larger but excellent for close focus with both eyes also and superb as light goes down and generally excellent all rounder. I actually considered selling it to buy a M7 8x but when I took it out again to try it only took a few minutes to decide that this was not an option as it just suits me so well and always works flawlessly. I really find it superb actually. It's big but it balances so nicely and obviously has a big area to comfortably grip. I had originally ordered a 10x Sapphire and they sent me the 8x by mistake but one look through it and that was that. Keeping this. That was a few years ago and I still have never had a chance to try the 10x version of the open bridge like my 8x but did return the closed bridge 10x version as that didn't impress. Yet another return. Actually cost me about 30 postage as I offered to pay their postage as well as my return postage but I paid 8 and they had paid 25 or something as it was a few grams over the limit when they weighed it at their end so a lot of cost just to view a binocular I didn't like. Had forgotten about that. Bad memory returns.

Hope you keep getting good use out of and enjoying your 7s.

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Old Monday 29th June 2015, 16:04   #59
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I am wondering if the Monarch 3 is a reasonable way to
clear up the chromatic issues in the ProStaff 7s.
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