Chosun Juan
Given to Fly
Haha :-O that's the secret to a long life Bill - keep breathing ! oAbout 10 years ago, I decided I was going to live forever and so far ... so good! 8-P
Bill
Haha :-O that's the secret to a long life Bill - keep breathing ! oAbout 10 years ago, I decided I was going to live forever and so far ... so good! 8-P
Bill
..... I choose the 8× because I can mostly hold it steady .....
..... I think a slight amount of movement with an 8× is fairly normal for everyone. Most times it is not critical, and so we do not consciously think of it.
...... but it seems quite normal to me, that a magnification of 8x can cause some vibrations and since you are not dead fortunately your muscle tension will all by itself cause some vibration, which one can limit a bit by supporting the binocular. The other point is that your heart beat also causes vibrations in the muscular system fortunately and that also affects binocular stability.......
Gijs, Vespo, I don't drink coffee (except sometimes a bit of raw iced, or liqueur - Kahlua' , but even then it has to be diluted with 2× milk so that it just tastes like a big caramel milkshake! :eat: B ). When I was doing Tae-Kwon-Do and training in professional shooting, and through biofeedback and mindfulness, I was able to lower my heart rate to ~30bpm taking roughly 1 breath a minute. Then a slightly higher breath rate allowed precise trigger control afer exhalation between even heartbeats. I use similar techniques when I want to eek every last bit of stability and resolution out of my binoculars.Less coffee and some beta-blockers might work?
Yes, I already have the 8×43 Zen-Ray ED3 --- so best ergonomics in the business right there ........ :cat:And some 8x might be more stable than others due to large FOV, good ergo and excellent eye piece/ER. You know what bin I'm talking about.
Yes, this is what I do when my binos and eyeballs run out of puff - take a picture at 1200mm(eq) ~24× and then zoom in from there ...... often it will tell you whether you are looking at a stick/rock/shadow, or a bird!On the other hand, beyond that context, the future is already here if you want it. People are starting to ID birds with superzoom cameras now, 600 to 3000mm equivalent lenses. That's 14x to 70x, and you can even save an image to study later. Not the same experience at all, but useful.....
The quality standard for binoculars is probably the limiting factor here.
Not much point in making them better than the average eye might be what the average manufacturer thinks.
When it comes to camera lenses your essayist might be more correct on aspherical lenses and "quantum leap" in image quality. Especially zoom lenses have improved significant only over the last 4-5 years and many uses aspherical lens elements. See attached file of the Nikon 24-70mm zoom, with built in image stabilization of course, and using in total 4 aspherical lenses. Image quality is also clearly better than it's predecessor and very welcome on the latest 45 MP image sensors. This lens is not cheap but still a bit less expensive than most alpha binoculars.
Technical stagnation in binoculars, but continued good progress in imaging systems surely prefigures a shift in birding practices.
Even today, rarities are suspect without photographic proof, so it is no stretch to envision a birding future where imaging supersedes observation.
We may look back at current practices with the same bemusement that we today look back at the shotgun based ID methods of Audubon and his contemporaries.
The validity of the term "photographic proof" will probably fade with the same speed that AI is developing unfortunately and photos can't be trusted anymore.
Meanwhile "enjoy" this creative photographers anteater-scam:
https://petapixel.com/2018/04/30/a-closer-look-at-the-stuffed-anteater-photo-contest-scandal/
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Haha :-O that's the secret to a long life Bill - keep breathing ! o
The validity of the term "photographic proof" will probably fade with the same speed that AI is developing unfortunately and photos can't be trusted anymore.
Meanwhile "enjoy" this creative photographers anteater-scam:
https://petapixel.com/2018/04/30/a-closer-look-at-the-stuffed-anteater-photo-contest-scandal/
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You raise a serious point.
Hopefully the judges ability to analyze photos will improve in line with our ability to fake them.
Yes, I'm sure you're right. The alphas must exceed that standard, but by how much?The quality standard for binoculars is probably the limiting factor here.
Not much point in making them better than the average eye might be what the average manufacturer thinks.
And the ISO standard seems to be set quite low as some here on BF have pointed out.
Yes, I'm sure you're right. The alphas must exceed that standard, but by how much?
We've just acquired a different Nikon 24-70 for our new Z6 cameras, again with one ASPH element. (The front elements are collapsed in this diagram and extend out for use.) Leica of course have been using ASPH for years already, at least in camera lenses. Perhaps the cost of such elements -- I think they're usually molded, rather than ground -- has recently been reduced somehow.
What do Meade, Celestron, Hawke, Leupold, Vortex, Bushnell, Opticron, Swift, Meopta, Avalon, Maven, Vanguard, Track, Tom Lock, and Oberwerk have in common? They are all companies that do not make binoculars ... and never have.
Maybe Bill meant Meopta USA (which doesn‘t manufacture, just assembly), not Meopta Czech Republic (which DOES manufacture, even for other brands).
Canip
The quality standard for binoculars is probably the limiting factor here.
Not much point in making them better than the average eye might be what the average manufacturer thinks.
And the ISO standard seems to be set quite low as some here on BF have pointed out.
Here is what Milos Slany of Meopta Optika, Czech Republic, said about the ISO Standard (Norm) in my interview with him:
ISO standard governing high quality binoculars
T: It has been said that ISO 14133-2, governing the performance of high quality binoculars is not at all demanding. Do you agree with this, and in particular, do you think the resolution requirements are ambitious enough?
M: Strictly speaking the standard is not especially demanding but the fact is if you produce a binocular which exceeds the resolution requirement, the image which reaches the retina will not bring better resolution because the standard is already equal to the best resolution the average human eye can produce. BUT. While this standard is used by Meopta, resolution is really just one small part of the perception of optical performance. Contrast is really very important too and there are many other parameters which must be taken into account. In fact there is no single figure that can define or summarise optical performance so Meopta uses many and these include not only resolution but Modulation Transfer Function, Strehl Ratio, as well as measurements of several aberrations and of course light transmission.
Lee