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Old Monday 23rd March 2020, 22:54   #1
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I want to argue about Brexit!

Just like in the good old days. Ivory-billed woodpeckers or Giant Ravens will suffice.
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Ah... Giant Ravens... those were the times...
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Not Coronavirus then?


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Not Coronavirus then?


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Dry wit is what's required, sorry to say I'm not afflicted with that talent.
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To paraphrase POTUS, "It is all a hoax." He wants to halt social distancing and he is getting irritated by Dr. Anthony Fauci, our leading expert.

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So the idiots like Schumer and Pelosi are statesmen then, laughable.

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Just like in the good old days. Ivory-billed woodpeckers or Giant Ravens will suffice.

What is the deal with Giant Ravens? Can't find anything specific but it sounds fun :)
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What is the deal with Giant Ravens? Can't find anything specific but it sounds fun :)
Think this was it: https://www.birdforum.net/showthread.php?t=106640

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So the idiots like Schumer and Pelosi are statesmen then, laughable.
Come on, pretty much anyone on the planet is more of a statesman than Trump. Bolsonaro comes close though.
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To paraphrase from When Harry met Sally: "I'll have whatever Gingling was having"
I think he was having a laugh at our expense, Richard. He had another thread about a Horned Lark that was half the size of a regular one. Funny guy though. I liked his style of writing. Kind of half "The Stranger" in Big Lebowski, and half Indigineous Shaman. He was probably a bored Project Manager in an IT company.
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Back to the topic of Brexit if I may. Something I'm curious about.
Do people in the UK think that the current difficulties of the UK fishing industry to get their catch exported, will reduce the eagerness to sever all ties with the EU as opposed to the current fisheries agreement?

I understand that 80% of fish caught gets exported, an 80% of fish that Brits eat is imported. The species caught and the species preferably eaten, don't match.
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The Dutch catch 80% of their fish in British waters. I would be most happy for them to lose access (being Dutch myself).
When the Dutch can export their shrimps to Morocco to be shelled and import them back to be eaten, I think trade will not be the issue.
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Whats this thread about?

Dodos, a stately Raven of the saintly days of yore or fish?

Miscellaneous is also good
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Back to the topic of Brexit if I may. Something I'm curious about.
Do people in the UK think that the current difficulties of the UK fishing industry to get their catch exported, will reduce the eagerness to sever all ties with the EU as opposed to the current fisheries agreement?

I understand that 80% of fish caught gets exported, an 80% of fish that Brits eat is imported. The species caught and the species preferably eaten, don't match.
What difficulties, I though this was going to be the blackmail tactic being used by the EU after the implementations stage / agreement?

I understand that we catch and export a large amount of Herring which we're not keen to eat here so all we have to do is get the big Spanish factory ships out of our waters and catch the Cod and Haddock that we like, simple....

I used to go on an annual sea fishing trip with work and we would always catch loads of Cod and Haddock but that changed massively over time. The last trip I did, all we caught were a few Mackerel.

I know it's not that easy but it seems like it should be, the French in particular will lose some very valuable Scallop fishing which they are VERY unhappy about.
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The EU rules are heavily in favour of big trawlers and not popular in all its member states (e.g. German fishers suffer as well). I think the UK has a very good position for negotiation here.

The Dutch and Germans will definitely buy your herring.
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What difficulties?

I understand that we catch and export a large amount of Herring which we're not keen to eat here so all we have to do is get the big Spanish factory ships out of our waters and catch the Cod and Haddock that we like, simple....
I was going by this news report:
https://www.foodnavigator.com/Articl...onavirus-shock

Cod and Haddock are in the process of migrating north due to climate change, it has been reported. See for example https://www.theguardian.com/environm...climate-change

It will be interesting to see how this unfolds over the next couple of years.
I hope you're right and that it really is simple.
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The EU rules are heavily in favour of big trawlers and not popular in all its member states (e.g. German fishers suffer as well). I think the UK has a very good position for negotiation here.

The Dutch and Germans will definitely buy your herring.
Here's a thing.

The UK, along with all European countries, is now heading for recession, if not a depression. Whilst I'm sure recovery will be relatively rapid, a fear of a minor recession , or reduced growth (which was the projection pre-covid-19) associated with a No Deal Brexit, will hold literally NO fear for the UK, its government or its people.

With no fear, the r-EU will get a take it or leave it trade deal from the UK. Otherwise its WTO. It really is as simple as that.

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Whoop dee doo

The last 5 years truly is the gift that keeps on giving
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Whoop dee doo

The last 5 years truly is the gift that keeps on giving
Not as good as the 14th Century, apparently (see the book I recommended on some other thread). They had everything, England v. France, Plague, Religious Fanaticism, Dodgy Royals, and Witch Trials to boot! Mind you, they had no football like we have. Oh no, wait.....


(P.S. You guys go ahead, but I didn't really want to argue about Brexit, I was trying unsuccessfully to be fscetious...I just want to get away from the C-word. I left all whatsapp groups etc. in order tp preserve some sanity. But I am observing all the protocols here obviously).

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Not as good as the 14th Century, apparently (see the book I recommended on some other thread). ...Mind you, they had no football like we have. Oh no, wait.....
Hello Sancho,

Did yo mean A Distant Mirror? by Barbara Tuchman?

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Hello Sancho,

Did yo mean A Distant Mirror? by Barbara Tuchman?

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I most certainly did, Arthur. I mis-translated, Im reading a Spanish translation just to try to keep my mind limber. Ive never read anything else by Tuchman but I think she wrote a highly-regarded book about Gettysburg.
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