Join for FREE
It only takes a minute!
Zeiss - Always on the lookout for something special – Shop now

Welcome to BirdForum.
BirdForum is the net's largest birding community, dedicated to wild birds and birding, and is absolutely FREE! You are most welcome to register for an account, which allows you to take part in lively discussions in the forum, post your pictures in the gallery and more.

Wild in Aberdeen - City and Shire

Reply
 
Thread Tools Rating: Thread Rating: 10 votes, 5.00 average.
Old Tuesday 28th July 2009, 09:52   #1
Ken Hall
Registered User

 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: aberdeenshire uk
Posts: 1,041
Wild in Aberdeen - City and Shire

Enough dithering. The consultation period is past. Thanks for your suggestions for a thread title. I was rather hoping somebody else would take it on, but never mind, I'll do it. I've gone for what is possibly the longest title in the sub-forum, more creative than functional. Thanks also to Andrew for tolerating the hijacking of his Birds fae Torry thread.

Kevin, I'll let you decide if you want to federalise your Kincardine and Mearns thread with this one, since it is technically part of Aberdeenshire. Personally, I think your thread should be kept separate, since the area it covers has a unique identity. There is of course the anomaly of the bit that sticks out north of the River Dee, so that places like Banchory and much of the Hill o' Fare are in Kincardineshire. I have to drive through this anomaly every time I go to Aberdeen. No big scary monsters though. (That was a reference to ITV's Sci-fi drama Primeval)

None of this is intended to stop anyone else starting a thread on their own local patch within the area, in fact it would be a welcome addition.

If anyone has any problems with any of this, I'll be very happy to have it changed. It's not really my thread, it's for all of us.
__________________
My NEW website: THE NATURE OF NORTH-EAST SCOTLAND http://www.thenatureofnortheastscotland.com

I'm Freewheeling Now (Going Rapidly Downhill)
Ken Hall is offline  
Reply With Quote

BF Supporter 2006 2007 2008 2009 2010 2011 Support BirdForum With A Donation

Old Tuesday 28th July 2009, 09:59   #2
Andrew Whitehouse
Professor of Listening
BF Supporter 2019
 
Andrew Whitehouse's Avatar

 
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Aberdeen
Posts: 20,095
Great! I think this will be a good thing and we can get the discussion on Birds fae Torry back to being about Purple Sandpiper Totalisers and discarded clothing. And this thread might actually feature some proper rare birds from time to time, which is a good thing.
__________________
Andrew

Listening to Birds
Andrew Whitehouse is online now  
Reply With Quote

BF Supporter 2004 2005 2006 2007 2008 2009 2010 2011 2012 2013 2014 2015 2016 2017 2018 2019 Support BirdForum With A Donation

Old Tuesday 28th July 2009, 10:13   #3
Ken Hall
Registered User

 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: aberdeenshire uk
Posts: 1,041
Now I suppose I'd better start the thread off. Yesterday, I went to the Den of Maidencraig. Last time I was there was in early spring 2008, probably a month too early, but I could see the potential. Unfortunately, the lure of the coast always proved too great, so I never went back. Until I was reminded of the place by The Seagull that is.

On my way there, I saw two Red Kites at Garlogie. That was a good start to the day. For those who don't know the place (which will be nearly everyone reading this) it is a local nature reserve managed by Aberdeen City Ranger Service. It is situated on the north side of the A944, more or less opposite the Crematorium. It consists of a long narrow valley, with rough grassland, scrub and mature woodland. The Denburn runs through it, forming a small pond at one point. I spent about an hour and a half there in the forenoon, so I was away before the storms arrived. I went to Montrose and got their storms instead.

Here is what I saw: several Woodpigeons, Black-headed Gulls, 2 Buzzards (one of them was so tatty with feathers broken or missing that I'm surprised it was able to fly), lots of Swallows, a Magpie, Meadow Pipits (one of them carrying food for its young) Song Thrush singing, a Roe Deer, Blackbirds, a family of recently fledged House Sparrows, a single female Mallard in the pond, Common Gulls overhead, Reed Bunting, Herring Gulls calling, a passing Oystercatcher, Greenfinches, Carrion Crows, House Martins, Chaffinches, Blue Tits, a Willow Warbler going hoo-wit, Goldfinches, and finally, only 90% certain, a Grasshopper Warbler.

I reckon this is a place worth further exploration and time. So instead of just driving past it, I must try to stop and check it out more often.
__________________
My NEW website: THE NATURE OF NORTH-EAST SCOTLAND http://www.thenatureofnortheastscotland.com

I'm Freewheeling Now (Going Rapidly Downhill)
Ken Hall is offline  
Reply With Quote

BF Supporter 2006 2007 2008 2009 2010 2011 Support BirdForum With A Donation

Old Tuesday 28th July 2009, 10:25   #4
TheSeagull
Registered User

 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Aberdeen
Posts: 599
Blog Entries: 5
Good report, I must get back soon, it's my local patch only 2 minutes walking. Good job on the 90% sure Grasshopper Warbler. Funny fact about Oystercatchers though is that your guaranteed great views at the children's hospital there's dozens of them on the fields beside the helicopter pad. In comparison with yours I seen Buzzard, Herring Gull, Common Gull, House Martin, Willow Warbler, Chiffchaff, Blue Tits, Carrion Crow, Teal, Sparrowhawk, Common Frog and Red Kite. Oh and that unidentified small-mediumish mammal that wasn't a squirrel.
__________________
New Year's Resolution: See the Scottish Islands!

Last edited by TheSeagull : Tuesday 28th July 2009 at 10:38.
TheSeagull is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old Tuesday 28th July 2009, 10:39   #5
Capercaillie71
Registered User
 
Capercaillie71's Avatar

 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Deeside, Aberdeenshire
Posts: 3,172
Great to see the thread underway Ken! Like you, I have the dilemma that I drive through the Kincardineshire 'anomaly' every day on my way to work. It's in the 'beyond' part of Kincardineshire, but I think it falls more naturally into this thread.

Work, the weather and domestic commitments mean that I haven't done much birding lately. I often stop to have a look at the Trout pond at Strachan on my way to work. It's about five miles west of Banchory and just inside the 'anomaly'. There is a thriving feral population of Greylag Geese in the area and moderately interesting birds turn up there from time to time. In the past few weeks there have been a couple of juvenile Goldeneye there, which have probably dispersed from breeding areas further up Deeside. Last week they were joined by a juvenile Little Grebe which was also moderately interesting.

There seems to have been a bigger than normal influx of Quails into NE Scotland this year since the end of June. I even added it to my 'from the garden' list (heard only of course). Normally Quail is a once every other year bird for me, but I have heard four this year and even managed to see one. So definitely a better than average year Quail-wise as far as I'm concerned!
Capercaillie71 is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old Tuesday 28th July 2009, 10:44   #6
TheSeagull
Registered User

 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Aberdeen
Posts: 599
Blog Entries: 5
What type of habitat does Quail like? Grassland or Heathland?
__________________
New Year's Resolution: See the Scottish Islands!
TheSeagull is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old Tuesday 28th July 2009, 10:51   #7
delia todd
Moderator but....... If I say the wrong thing put it down to Senior Moments
BF Supporter 2019
 
delia todd's Avatar

 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Perthshire
Posts: 250,195
Oooh goody another thread - thanks Ken. Now I've got somewhere 'proper' to direct new members to.

Sooo.... is Kevin's thread sort of his Swallows and from Angus north to Aberdeen (and anywhere else he goes). Then Totalisers and discarded clothing..... then this one?

erm.... just checking

D
__________________
In between goals is a thing called life, that has to be lived and enjoyed

2006 63, 2007 52, 2008 46, 2009 32, 2010 31, 2011 27 Total 81

Latest Patch tick: Magpie
18091

The only true wisdom is knowing you know nothing - Socrates
delia todd is offline  
Reply With Quote

BF Supporter 2004 2005 2006 2007 2008 2009 2010 2011 2012 2013 2014 2015 2016 2017 2018 2019 Support BirdForum With A Donation

Old Tuesday 28th July 2009, 10:58   #8
Capercaillie71
Registered User
 
Capercaillie71's Avatar

 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Deeside, Aberdeenshire
Posts: 3,172
Quote:
Originally Posted by TheSeagull View Post
What type of habitat does Quail like? Grassland or Heathland?
Most of the ones I've heard have been in arable fields (usually barley), but some (including the one I heard from my garden) have been in grass fields (usually unmown hay).
Capercaillie71 is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old Tuesday 28th July 2009, 11:21   #9
TheSeagull
Registered User

 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Aberdeen
Posts: 599
Blog Entries: 5
Quote:
Originally Posted by Capercaillie71 View Post
Most of the ones I've heard have been in arable fields (usually barley), but some (including the one I heard from my garden) have been in grass fields (usually unmown hay).
Thanks, need to try for some game birds soon.
__________________
New Year's Resolution: See the Scottish Islands!
TheSeagull is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old Tuesday 28th July 2009, 14:34   #10
Ken Hall
Registered User

 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: aberdeenshire uk
Posts: 1,041
Quote:
Originally Posted by TheSeagull View Post
Good report, I must get back soon, it's my local patch only 2 minutes walking. Good job on the 90% sure Grasshopper Warbler. Funny fact about Oystercatchers though is that your guaranteed great views at the children's hospital there's dozens of them on the fields beside the helicopter pad. In comparison with yours I seen Buzzard, Herring Gull, Common Gull, House Martin, Willow Warbler, Chiffchaff, Blue Tits, Carrion Crow, Teal, Sparrowhawk, Common Frog and Red Kite. Oh and that unidentified small-mediumish mammal that wasn't a squirrel.
thanks Calvin. Oystercatchers like to nest on flat roofs and the ARI buildings are ideal for that, also the grassy areas provide worms etc. You said (jokingly) that you heard a rattle snake at DoM. Possibly a Mistle Thrush if it was really loud, and quite short, like an old fashioned wooden football rattle if that means anything to you . Or if it was long drawn out like an old sewing machine (if that means anything to you either ) maybe it was my 90% Grasshopper Warbler. It sounds quite like a grasshopper but goes on a lot longer than they do. And I would be very surprised to find an adder in the DoM. Keep a look out for Dippers on the burn, probably in the woods at the west end.

all the best, Ken
__________________
My NEW website: THE NATURE OF NORTH-EAST SCOTLAND http://www.thenatureofnortheastscotland.com

I'm Freewheeling Now (Going Rapidly Downhill)
Ken Hall is offline  
Reply With Quote

BF Supporter 2006 2007 2008 2009 2010 2011 Support BirdForum With A Donation

Old Tuesday 28th July 2009, 16:07   #11
TheSeagull
Registered User

 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Aberdeen
Posts: 599
Blog Entries: 5
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ken Hall View Post
thanks Calvin. Oystercatchers like to nest on flat roofs and the ARI buildings are ideal for that, also the grassy areas provide worms etc. You said (jokingly) that you heard a rattle snake at DoM. Possibly a Mistle Thrush if it was really loud, and quite short, like an old fashioned wooden football rattle if that means anything to you . Or if it was long drawn out like an old sewing machine (if that means anything to you either ) maybe it was my 90% Grasshopper Warbler. It sounds quite like a grasshopper but goes on a lot longer than they do. And I would be very surprised to find an adder in the DoM. Keep a look out for Dippers on the burn, probably in the woods at the west end.

all the best, Ken
Just had a listen to Grasshopper Warbler and I think your right - that is what I heard! That must have been a Grasshopper Warbler you seen.
__________________
New Year's Resolution: See the Scottish Islands!
TheSeagull is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old Tuesday 28th July 2009, 17:05   #12
Ken Hall
Registered User

 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: aberdeenshire uk
Posts: 1,041
Actually I didn't see it, only heard it. Sorry, I should have made that clear. They are very skulking birds and more often heard than seen. I was watching a Willow Warbler near the car park when I became aware of the reeling sound. At that point, a mannie came along and began asking questions: fit are ye looking at? Birds. Fit kin' o' birds? Willow Warblers. Eyes began to glaze over. No more annoying questions. By the time he moved on, the Gropper had stopped. I hung around for a while, but nothing more to be heard. It's actually getting a bit late in the year for them, so I guess we were lucky. Do you count heard only birds in your lists?
__________________
My NEW website: THE NATURE OF NORTH-EAST SCOTLAND http://www.thenatureofnortheastscotland.com

I'm Freewheeling Now (Going Rapidly Downhill)
Ken Hall is offline  
Reply With Quote

BF Supporter 2006 2007 2008 2009 2010 2011 Support BirdForum With A Donation

Old Tuesday 28th July 2009, 17:31   #13
TheSeagull
Registered User

 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Aberdeen
Posts: 599
Blog Entries: 5
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ken Hall View Post
Actually I didn't see it, only heard it. Sorry, I should have made that clear. They are very skulking birds and more often heard than seen. I was watching a Willow Warbler near the car park when I became aware of the reeling sound. At that point, a mannie came along and began asking questions: fit are ye looking at? Birds. Fit kin' o' birds? Willow Warblers. Eyes began to glaze over. No more annoying questions. By the time he moved on, the Gropper had stopped. I hung around for a while, but nothing more to be heard. It's actually getting a bit late in the year for them, so I guess we were lucky. Do you count heard only birds in your lists?
Not sure, haven't decided yet as the only birds that I've heard but not seen are Chaffinch and Grasshopper Warbler, there's a lot of others as well but I haven't identified them as I tend to forget most by the time I get home
__________________
New Year's Resolution: See the Scottish Islands!
TheSeagull is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old Tuesday 28th July 2009, 21:19   #14
Joseph N
Lothian Young Birder
 
Joseph N's Avatar

 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Edinburgh/Glasgow/Costessey, Norfolk
Posts: 1,519
Blog Entries: 9
Fantastc to see this thread up and running. Whenever I have seen notable birds, I will make sure I inform my fellow Aberdonians in here.
Joseph N is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old Wednesday 29th July 2009, 11:49   #15
choughed2bits
kev thomson
 
choughed2bits's Avatar

 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Gourdon, Scotland
Posts: 108
Quote:
Originally Posted by delia todd View Post
Oooh goody another thread - thanks Ken. Now I've got somewhere 'proper' to direct new members to.

Sooo.... is Kevin's thread sort of his Swallows and from Angus north to Aberdeen (and anywhere else he goes). Then Totalisers and discarded clothing..... then this one?

erm.... just checking

D
Strictly speaking Delia, I suppose the intention with my thread was to encompass the Mearns of Kincardineshire and not so much any of it's anomalies, black holes or ruptures in the space-time continuum.

Should I change the name of my thread? Not sure i know how to!

Anyway, good to see this thread up and running. Already plenty of good posts and more gen for me to get out of my local patch and go birding elsewhere!

Kev T.
choughed2bits is offline  
Reply With Quote

BF Supporter 2009 Support BirdForum With A Donation

Old Wednesday 29th July 2009, 20:24   #16
TheSeagull
Registered User

 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Aberdeen
Posts: 599
Blog Entries: 5
Just posted a blog entry for Loch of Skene and Den of Maidencraig if anyone wants a read.
__________________
New Year's Resolution: See the Scottish Islands!
TheSeagull is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old Thursday 30th July 2009, 09:27   #17
Ken Hall
Registered User

 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: aberdeenshire uk
Posts: 1,041
Quote:
Originally Posted by TheSeagull View Post
Just posted a blog entry for Loch of Skene and Den of Maidencraig if anyone wants a read.
Very well written blog Calvin. I enjoyed reading it, but I wish you would remember not to say seen when you mean saw. Sorry, at my age I'm allowed to be pedantic.

I had a quick visit to the Den of Maidencraig yesterday on my way to Girdleness. Added the following to my previous visit: Swift, Grey Heron, Whitethroat and Wren. There is now a family of Mallards in the pond, 2 adults and 9 very newly hatched ducklings. Two Lesser Black-backed Gulls were hanging around, eyeing up their supper probably. The path in the woods was covered in fingernail sized froglets. Please don't eat all the wild rasps when you're there, I need my 5-a-day.

But the highlight of the day came when I was back home. Just after six o'clock, I was looking out of the kitchen window when a Pine Marten casually strolled along the wall not 3 metres away, left a jobbie on top of the wall, then sauntered away through the neighbour's garden. Absolutely brilliant.
__________________
My NEW website: THE NATURE OF NORTH-EAST SCOTLAND http://www.thenatureofnortheastscotland.com

I'm Freewheeling Now (Going Rapidly Downhill)
Ken Hall is offline  
Reply With Quote

BF Supporter 2006 2007 2008 2009 2010 2011 Support BirdForum With A Donation

Old Thursday 30th July 2009, 19:30   #18
Ken Hall
Registered User

 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: aberdeenshire uk
Posts: 1,041
I went to the Tarland Waste Water Treatment hide for an hour this afternoon. I'm afraid the wetland is a bit of a mess, all overgrown, which is fine for the birds but not much use for seeing them. Time to get the cows in as happened last year. Things were a bit quiet on the pool, with mostly Lapwings (about 30) loafing about, some Mallards and some Teal and a couple of Moorhens. Chaffinches and a Siskin used the feeders, and about a dozen Sand Martins and a few Swallows skimmed the water. You can see Clachnaben from the hide, with its prominent rocky tor, and I passed the time zooming in on it with my 25x - 75x scope. Would you believe, I saw two people and two dogs, outlined against the skyline. Having picked them up I was able to follow them as they descended one of the paths. Granted the light was very good with very little distortion, but the distance as the crow flies is 14 miles!
__________________
My NEW website: THE NATURE OF NORTH-EAST SCOTLAND http://www.thenatureofnortheastscotland.com

I'm Freewheeling Now (Going Rapidly Downhill)
Ken Hall is offline  
Reply With Quote

BF Supporter 2006 2007 2008 2009 2010 2011 Support BirdForum With A Donation

Old Thursday 30th July 2009, 20:34   #19
Joseph N
Lothian Young Birder
 
Joseph N's Avatar

 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Edinburgh/Glasgow/Costessey, Norfolk
Posts: 1,519
Blog Entries: 9
Great blog Calvin, as Ken says, that's really well wrriten! I also have my own blog which I started yesterday, so if you want to read it feel free! The first entry is about my experience at Ham Wall RSPB, which is in Somerset, but I will keep updating the blog, and a majority of the future entries will be of birding within Aberdeenshire. My Dad and I are actually thinking of going out tomorrow or this weekend, so I will report in here what I see and in my blog.
Joseph N is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old Friday 31st July 2009, 09:29   #20
TheSeagull
Registered User

 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Aberdeen
Posts: 599
Blog Entries: 5
Great report JosephN, I've never been wildlife watching outside Aberdeen, hopefully in the next week or two as my dad's off for a fortnight. Can't be far though as I have a dog who I can't take with so might just go to the Cairngorms or Barra or something, my Dad's from Barra you see, I've never been though. Replaced the seen with saw Ken, just for you! I always put saw for some reason, it's programmed into my brain.
__________________
New Year's Resolution: See the Scottish Islands!
TheSeagull is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old Friday 31st July 2009, 13:42   #21
Ben Nevis
Registered User
 
Ben Nevis's Avatar

 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Aberdeen
Posts: 2,719
Peregrine Falcons

There has been plenty of action from the city centre Peregrines this week.Adults and youngsters chasing each other and making a hell of a noise,doing so.Most activity takes place between 5.30am and 7am and the main spots for seeing them is,Upperkirkgate,Marischal College (restricted views),Kirk of St Nicholas (the big one on Union Street) and the red Triple Kirk building.A great way to start the day.
Ben Nevis is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old Friday 31st July 2009, 17:20   #22
TheSeagull
Registered User

 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Aberdeen
Posts: 599
Blog Entries: 5
I've been in those areas four times this week and the only birds I've seen are the usual Common/Herring Gulls and Feral Pigeons
Anyone suggest somewhere to go birding in Aberdeen? Where is Girdleness?
__________________
New Year's Resolution: See the Scottish Islands!

Last edited by TheSeagull : Friday 31st July 2009 at 18:10.
TheSeagull is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old Friday 31st July 2009, 18:40   #23
Ben Nevis
Registered User
 
Ben Nevis's Avatar

 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Aberdeen
Posts: 2,719
Quote:
Originally Posted by TheSeagull View Post
I've been in those areas four times this week and the only birds I've seen are the usual Common/Herring Gulls and Feral Pigeons
Anyone suggest somewhere to go birding in Aberdeen? Where is Girdleness?
Have to say Seagull,it would be hard to pick out the Peregrines during the working day,as the areas they are in are bustling with people and traffic.Best bet,is to stand in Upperkirkgate,early in the morning outside "The Tastie Tattie" and look for them,at the places I list.At the moment,they are very vocal and once you heard them,you would easily be able to watch them.
Ben Nevis is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old Friday 31st July 2009, 18:45   #24
Ben Nevis
Registered User
 
Ben Nevis's Avatar

 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Aberdeen
Posts: 2,719
Quote:
Originally Posted by TheSeagull View Post

Anyone suggest somewhere to go birding in Aberdeen? Where is Girdleness?
Girdleness is a headland,just outside of the Torry area of the city.If you know where Balnagask Golf Course is,then it is the area of coast and grassland that surrounds the course.No doubt Andrew or Ken may post a link for you.
Ben Nevis is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old Friday 31st July 2009, 23:15   #25
Joseph N
Lothian Young Birder
 
Joseph N's Avatar

 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Edinburgh/Glasgow/Costessey, Norfolk
Posts: 1,519
Blog Entries: 9
Calvin, Girldness is arguably one of the best places to go birdwatching in the whole of Aberdeenshire when the winds are in the right direction; you can get fantastic sea bird passages off there and rare passerines (if you can find them). However, it is not at its best right now; wait until the Autumn and undoubtedly there will be copious bird activity at Girdlness.
Joseph N is offline  
Reply With Quote
Advertisement
Reply


Thread Tools
Rate This Thread
Rate This Thread:

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is Off
HTML code is Off

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Hello from Aberdeen Joseph N Say Hello 14 Tuesday 14th July 2009 17:54
Call of the wild: Re-establishing our lost wild animals Chris Monk Mammals 6 Tuesday 14th November 2006 15:41
Hi from Aberdeen douglasjt Say Hello 16 Saturday 14th January 2006 14:53
Wild in the city rodneyjohn Tips For New Birders 1 Saturday 24th April 2004 19:08
Shire Wildlife Books pduxon Books, Magazines, Publications, Video & DVD 4 Friday 2nd April 2004 07:22



Fatbirder's Top 1000 Birding Websites

Help support BirdForum

Page generated in 0.18019795 seconds with 38 queries
All times are GMT. The time now is 19:25.