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Old Monday 21st October 2013, 14:51   #76
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I went up the coast this morning to Howick (it's only 10 minutes or so) to get some photos of the Siberian stonechat in less-than-good light before the promised rain set in. A smoke trail over the sea to the south caught my eye and it turned out to be three of the Red Arrows - almost as rare as Sibe stonechats in these parts.

They were about a mile or so offshore, performing a loop, then as they came north they did another one, then another and another, flying north until they were out of sight, looping all the way and piercing the overcast at the tops of the loops.

I'm guessing that today being 21st October (Trafalgar Day) that they might have been doing it as some part of the celebration and that there being only three of them, maybe the team had split into three flights with the others off doing the same thing elsewhere.

Does anyone have a clue about it?
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I went up the coast this morning to Howick (it's only 10 minutes or so) to get some photos of the Siberian stonechat in less-than-good light before the promised rain set in. A smoke trail over the sea to the south caught my eye and it turned out to be three of the Red Arrows - almost as rare as Sibe stonechats in these parts.

They were about a mile or so offshore, performing a loop, then as they came north they did another one, then another and another, flying north until they were out of sight, looping all the way and piercing the overcast at the tops of the loops.

I'm guessing that today being 21st October (Trafalgar Day) that they might have been doing it as some part of the celebration and that there being only three of them, maybe the team had split into three flights with the others off doing the same thing elsewhere.

Does anyone have a clue about it?
The season is over really. With only three aircraft together its more likely that they were starting the training cycle again. The winter training starts simple with twos and threes, then they work up to larger formations and the crossovers etc before moving to Cyprus for the final pre-season work up with guaranteed sunshine. Probably you saw two of last season's team practising with one of the new guys, and perhaps fitting in some continuation training with a whiz through the low flying system before home for tea and crumpets.

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Old Monday 21st October 2013, 16:32   #78
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Only just cottoned onto this thread.

I get to see this old lady virtually everyday while I am on patch nr Woodford.
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Old Monday 21st October 2013, 16:34   #79
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The season is over really. With only three aircraft together its more likely that they were starting the training cycle again. The winter training starts simple with twos and threes, then they work up to larger formations and the crossovers etc before moving to Cyprus for the final pre-season work up with guaranteed sunshine. Probably you saw two of last season's team practising with one of the new guys, and perhaps fitting in some continuation training with a whiz through the low flying system before home for tea and crumpets.

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Maybe, but the North Northumberland coast is some way from home and as I said, we don't often see them around here. The only time we see them here usually is if the full team are on their way to or from a display in Scotland. When Leuchars display was on we used to get them over the house doing twizzels on their way to Fife.
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Maybe, but the North Northumberland coast is some way from home and as I said, we don't often see them around here. The only time we see them here usually is if the full team are on their way to or from a display in Scotland. When Leuchars display was on we used to get them over the house doing twizzels on their way to Fife.
Perhaps not often, but I remember visiting my Dad at Westgate (up Weardale, not in Nairobi) and being startled by an-all scarlet jet zipping down the valley at 500 feet. Hence my suggestion.

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Only just cottoned onto this thread.

I get to see this old lady virtually everyday while I am on patch nr Woodford.
She looks like a scrub down and some fresh Dulux is in order. XM603 - a late build B2, but from the look of the fin not modified up to the latest squadron standard?

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Perhaps not often, but I remember visiting my Dad at Westgate (up Weardale, not in Nairobi) and being startled by an-all scarlet jet zipping down the valley at 500 feet. Hence my suggestion.

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Weardale? It might as well be Nairobi. It's the other side of the world from here.

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Weardale? It might as well be Nairobi. It's the other side of the world from here.

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We often see the black ones, and tucanos and other stuff,they fly over our house, but believe me, if the red ones were in the habit of coming this way I'd have spotted them.
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From the Red Arrows facebook page.





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@RAFRed10: At the wonderful @RAFLeuchars to escape the Lincs weather.Looped & rolled all the way here up the east coast!
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A couple of shots from my 'Planes over Patcham' series....

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Looks like a Cessna 150 and a Piper Cub?

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Hope this link works. Prepare to be astonished if it does.

http://forums.airshows.co.uk/viewtop...+level#p365541

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Looks like a Cessna 150 and a Piper Cub?

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Thanks for your quick-fire ID John. Much better than me at birds!
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Stunning John!

A couple of pics I took at Pent Farm, just 7 miles from here. In the summer we are treated to a Spitfire and occasionally, a Hurricane which are based here for 3 days a month throughout the season, for the "Fly with a Fighter" air experience. A wonderful and free flying display in the warm summer sun evokes images of how it must have been down here 70 odd years ago.

The Spit is the one that I flew with for my birthday treat.
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@RAFRed10: At the wonderful @RAFLeuchars to escape the Lincs weather.Looped & rolled all the way here up the east coast!
Thanks Geoff.

Their heads must have been spinning. It was loops all the way past me.
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Stunning John!

A couple of pics I took at Pent Farm, just 7 miles from here. In the summer we are treated to a Spitfire and occasionally, a Hurricane which are based here for 3 days a month throughout the season, for the "Fly with a Fighter" air experience. A wonderful and free flying display in the warm summer sun evokes images of how it must have been down here 70 odd years ago.

The Spit is the one that I flew with for my birthday treat.
It must be great to have them in that rural setting. Very much the old flavour of the RAF, before huge chainlink fences sprang up everywhere.

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I agree with the C150 (might be a C152, it all depends on the tertials) and a Cub

Love the Red Arrows shots, very good
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See the chap below occasionally, out over the Mississippi. He's obliged by waving a few times. On film, as that is, about as fast as I can go now days, to get a shot. Once the White Pelicans start coming down in numbers, believe he grounds himself.
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While we are on the subject of Duxford:
- it was the first place to have an operational Spitfire Squadron (No. 19)
- it was the principal location for filming Battle of Britain (during which one of the historic hangars was blown up for an airfield attack scene after permission had been denied
-it holds a cracking all-piston warbird airshow every July called Flying Legends which I would only miss for a tick
-it is probably the best place in Britain to listen to the song of the Merlin

Here are some Duxford Spitfires:
Do they still have the balbo at the end of the Flying Legends show? Haven't been since 1998. Took my dad who loved planes [ ex bomber command navigator on Wellingtons and Lancs ] often throughout the 90's. I think the record for the Duxford balbo was 39 planes in the air at once set in 1997, but I could be wrong. I have some old camcorder footage I made of it lying about the house somewhere.

Haven't shown so much interest in planes since the old man passed away and I moved away from England, as music and gardening as well as birding top my interest list now. If it had a prop or piston engine then I was interested. Jets did zilch for me. My aviation highlight was getting an hours stick time in a Tiger Moth about 12 years ago. Superb! Would love to fly in a DC3 sometime. Remember them rattling over our house where I grew up in Sussex in the 60's and 70's as I lived under the Gatwick flight path.

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Do they still have the balbo at the end of the Flying Legends show? Haven't been since 1998. Took my dad who loved planes [ ex bomber command navigator on Wellingtons and Lancs ] often throughout the 90's. I think the record for the Duxford balbo was 39 planes in the air at once set in 1997, but I could be wrong. I have some old camcorder footage I made of it lying about the house somewhere.

Haven't shown so much interest in planes since the old man passed away and I moved away from England, as music and gardening as well as birding top my interest list now. If it had a prop or piston engine then I was interested. Jets did zilch for me. My aviation highlight was getting an hours stick time in a Tiger Moth about 12 years ago. Superb! Would love to fly in a DC3 sometime. Remember them rattling over our house where I grew up in Sussex in the 60's and 70's as I lived under the Gatwick flight path.

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Yes, the balbo still flies. It was a bit thin this year but the scramble and the noise of the big formation still stirs the nape hairs.

Pic below: claps to the first to get them all right.

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Yes, the balbo still flies. It was a bit thin this year but the scramble and the noise of the big formation still stirs the nape hairs.

Pic below: claps to the first to get them all right.

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Unless you want an anoraks answer such as the mark type then I'll have a guess at Spitfires. Hurricane, Mustangs, Furies, Corsair and I think Hellcat and Kittyhawk. Not too sure what the middle planes are in rows 4 & 5. One looks ominously like an Bf 109 or one of those Spanish equivalents, a Buchon.

Shame the likes of the Mosquito, P38 and Tigercat [what a beast] are not there.

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I would say front rank:

Thunderbolt flanked by two P51

Corsair plus 2 Furies

Hurricane, Hellcat and P51

then a mixture of 51's and Spits of various marks, and maybe and couple of pretend 109's ...


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I would largely agree with your anorak

I think the next rows are:

P51, Spitfire, P51

Spit Mk 9, Me 109 (probably CASA built?) Spit Mk 9

Then possibly all Spits from there down

Pretty sure bottom 4 are Spits but not entirely sure about those two singletons
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