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Old Tuesday 29th March 2016, 18:47   #126
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The 830 military came in today and a quick comparison shows that the CF version has a close focus range of 2 meters and the IF has 4 meters. Same DOF, FOV and (lack of) sharpnes in the edges.
For my eyes the 30IF is also sharper, but......it could be me. The reason could be that each eye is focussed seperately (and therefore more finetuned) and the CF is some kind of "compromise". The latest intell from Swaro is, that there is no optical quality difference (except for the reticle) between the CF and IF.

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Jan: Any chance of getting an 8x30 habicht ga, either cf or if? Is it possible to ship over here to the U.S.? Cost? Thanks again, loved the tour of your store!
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Old Tuesday 29th March 2016, 21:02   #127
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Jan: Any chance of getting an 8x30 habicht ga, either cf or if? Is it possible to ship over here to the U.S.? Cost? Thanks again, loved the tour of your store!
Hello Karmantra,

Swarovski has them in stock. Production year 2011.
Please try SONA and/or Proud Papa first and if that doesn't work out I'll send you a sample in the configuration you want. Just PM me.
The first sample is at Gijs van Ginkel for spectra tests so we can see if there is any difference in regards to the civil model. After that it will go to Wim de Boer (former Zeiss repairman) who now runs his own optical repairshop ( www.dekijkerspecialist.nl ). He will place the objective tubes from the IF on a 10x40GACF, collimate them correctly and pressure them again. Let's see what that will turn out to be. By that time (third week of April) I do hope to get an answer from Swaro Austria if they will or won't do the job.
In the first case full warranty will be in place
So folks start hassle SONA!!

If Austria turns out negative and Wim succeeds I'll start selling them in two versions: the original IF with reticle and the CF without reticle.

I promised Henry the first sample so he can put his findings on BF.

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Old Wednesday 30th March 2016, 14:02   #128
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There are certain models, like the SLC 10x56, the Extendable Spotting Scopes, and some rifle scopes that just cannot be ordered by dealers in the U.S.
I just got off the phone with Swarovski North America and the CF 8x30 Habicht GA is one of those models.
Oh well.
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Old Wednesday 30th March 2016, 16:36   #129
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Angry Excluded Swaro models

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There are certain models, like the SLC 10x56, the Extendable Spotting Scopes, and some rifle scopes that just cannot be ordered by dealers in the U.S.
I just got off the phone with Swarovski North America and the CF 8x30 Habicht GA is one of those models.
Oh well.
Gordon: Bummer! May have to look outside of North America. I assume that the SLC 8x56 HD is also on the exclusions list.
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Gordon: Bummer! May have to look outside of North America. I assume that the SLC 8x56 HD is also on the exclusions list.
I would like to have an 8x56 SLC HD as well. It would have outstanding optics.
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There are certain models, like the SLC 10x56, the Extendable Spotting Scopes, and some rifle scopes that just cannot be ordered by dealers in the U.S.
I just got off the phone with Swarovski North America and the CF 8x30 Habicht GA is one of those models.
Oh well.

I wonder why they aren't available in America?

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I wonder why they aren't available in America?

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I think the answer is very low sales numbers, why bother with most US
dealers not selling any of those products.

Swarovski has been selling these sizes for many years, and they have tried and know the US market.

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Old Thursday 31st March 2016, 22:35   #134
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I would like to have an 8x56 SLC HD as well. It would have outstanding optics.
May I suggest APM, well know German company in amateur astronomy. Don't forget to deduct the 19% vat and convert euros to dollars. My experience ordering from them to USA has been good.

http://apm-telescopes.shopgate.com/category/31323932

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May I suggest APM, well know German company in amateur astronomy. Don't forget to deduct the 19% vat and convert euros to dollars. My experience ordering from them to USA has been good.

http://apm-telescopes.shopgate.com/category/31323932

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Thanks Jerry. I will check them out.
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May I suggest APM, well know German company in amateur astronomy. Don't forget to deduct the 19% vat and convert euros to dollars. My experience ordering from them to USA has been good.

http://apm-telescopes.shopgate.com/category/31323932

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Can I ask if any import/US Customs taxes were applied to the items you ordered?

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Can I ask if any import/US Customs taxes were applied to the items you ordered?

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No, there were no taxes. It was a new $800 item. Shipping was around $40 as I recall. I've purchased and returned items (including from German Amazon site) without any surprises. Except returning something to Germany takes a long time. Apparently the German inspectors open and examine the contents of every incoming package. The return usually arrives just after you've given up hope :>)

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The 8x30 military habicht came in today from my friend from Sweden and i set the focus at the approx 1000 meters. I was anxious to know what is the minimum distance in which the binoculars does not require a new focus adjust. At 45-50 meters the image was still in focus Not bad at all, but not 15 meters like somebody claim , The bino is made in 2011 new in box with accessories. At the beginning the reticle was a little annoying but after a couple hours becoming barely visible and i was able to focus more on the image.
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Also the price was great , 700 euro including transport. It was a dusty and polluted day but the image appear great ,bright clear and with fantastic definition. Some problem with veiling glare especially at the sunset but in approx 3 hours of use in 90 percent of the situations the image was more than satisfactory
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OK, the results from Gijs show that there is no difference in transmission spectra between the civil and the military 8x30 Habicht.
The 10x40 and the 8x30 are now on their way for conversion to Wim de Boer.
To be continued.

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OK, the results from Gijs show that there is no difference in transmission spectra between the civil and the military 8x30 Habicht.
The 10x40 and the 8x30 are now on their way for conversion to Wim de Boer.
To be continued.

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Interesting. Thanks for that information. Jan.
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OK, the results from Gijs show that there is no difference in transmission spectra between the civil and the military 8x30 Habicht.
The 10x40 and the 8x30 are now on their way for conversion to Wim de Boer.
To be continued.

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Jan: Looking forward to the results! One quick question which may seem odd, but are the 'military' green color of the 8x30 objective the same green as shown on the 'stock' made for the public green armouring? I only ask because I've only seen pictures of the military models and they seem to show a little different shade than the stock green armouring. Or are my eyes doing a color shift? Thanks!
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Jan: Looking forward to the results! One quick question which may seem odd, but are the 'military' green color of the 8x30 objective the same green as shown on the 'stock' made for the public green armouring? I only ask because I've only seen pictures of the military models and they seem to show a little different shade than the stock green armouring. Or are my eyes doing a color shift? Thanks!
I can't check any difference in color at this moment since both bins are at Wim's place, but I do have the 10x40 military and the civil one in GA and I can see no difference in color between both. The military is ##7929... and the civil is from ##8551... I remember that the 30mm was from ##81....

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I can't check any difference in color at this moment since both bins are at Wim's place, but I do have the 10x40 military and the civil one in GA and I can see no difference in color between both. The military is ##7929... and the civil is from ##8551... I remember that the 30mm was from ##81....

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Jan: Thanks for checking! Didn't think there was a difference unless some military organization wanted a specific tint of 'olive drab' for their binos!
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The birth of Henry's unique 8x30GACF and today on its way to the US.

Close focus is 1.75 meters, weight incl. covers 680 gram.

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rebirth of the 8x30 GA

Jan: Thanks for making it possible! Looking forward to Henry's test of the hybrid. Any idea on cost for the conversion?
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Jan: Thanks for making it possible! Looking forward to Henry's test of the hybrid. Any idea on cost for the conversion?
This depends on the stock status at Swarovski's.
The current stock is a cancelled militay order and when a new batch is made the purchage price (as they told me today) will be 500,00 euro's higher.
As for now the price for this 8x30GACF model will be 900,00 euro's ex VAT as long as this Swaro stock is available.

The next step will be a conversion of a 8x30GAIF and a 7x42GACF which could/should lead to a 10x42GAIF and a 5.5x30GACF.
That would result in a price drop of 100,00 euro's.
This will be done next week.

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I also want to thank Jan for making the impossible possible. He went far beyond what I ever expect a dealer to do.

I should have the binocular in a week or so. I'll try to post a review within a week after it arrives.

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This conversion sounds interesting, but I missed the details about what is changed and how.

Could either Henry or Jan elaborate?

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