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Old Thursday 21st April 2016, 06:06   #151
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This conversion sounds interesting, but I missed the details about what is changed and how.

Could either Henry or Jan elaborate?

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Jerry,

It was Henry's idea to swop the objectives between the 10x40WGACF with the ones from the military 8x30GAIF which would result in a Central Focus Rubber Armoured 8x30W. Wim de Boer did that for him. He also removed the reticle from the IF30, swopped the prismdeckplate 10x40 and 8x30, collimated and purged them again.

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Old Monday 25th April 2016, 11:08   #152
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This depends on the stock status at Swarovski's.
The current stock is a cancelled militay order and when a new batch is made the purchage price (as they told me today) will be 500,00 euro's higher.
As for now the price for this 8x30GACF model will be 900,00 euro's ex VAT as long as this Swaro stock is available.

The next step will be a conversion of a 8x30GAIF and a 7x42GACF which could/should lead to a 10x42GAIF and a 5.5x30GACF.
That would result in a price drop of 100,00 euro's.
This will be done next week.

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As it turns out this conversion will not be possible. The focal lenght of the oculair and the objective can't be matched. It would need a extra ring of two centimeters on the 30mm objective lens.

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As it turns out this conversion will not be possible. The focal lenght of the oculair and the objective can't be matched. It would need a extra ring of two centimeters on the 30mm objective lens.

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Jan: I certainly appreciate your efforts, that 5.5x30 cf would have been interesting!
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Jan: I certainly appreciate your efforts, that 5.5x30 cf would have been interesting!
Sorry mate, we've looked at the possibility for a extensionring with the right thread at both sides but the endresult was a really very ugly bin

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Jan,
If you have Swarovski 42mm tubes left over, how would they look on a Nikon 8x30 EII body?
Of course, no warranty.
Would both Nikon and Swarovski have fits? Either of despair or laughter?
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If you have Swarovski 42mm tubes left over, how would they look on a Nikon 8x30 EII body?
Of course, no warranty.
Would both Nikon and Swarovski have fits? Either of despair or laughter?
B,

Wim builts the 30 to the 40/42 and vice versa, so no left overs.
You should adress your wish to www.dekijkerspecialist.nl of Wim de Boer, who can do all the conversions for every brand on request and can answer all your questions.

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Thanks Jan.
I will ask him what would be a sensible conversion.
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Sorry mate, we've looked at the possibility ..... but the endresult was a really very ugly bin

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That has never stopped Canon.....
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That has never stopped Canon.....
LOL,

The Beauty and the Beast. Hell of a bin though, only sad Canon provides 1 year warranty on electronics (and not even a week longer).

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I think the new Canons have a 2 year warranty. I don't know if all Canons now have 2 years.
If you take one in for warranty issues you get an extra 6 months.
However, for some old models they have no spare parts available.

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I think the new Canons have a 2 year warranty. I don't know if all Canons now have 2 years.
If you take one in for warranty issues you get an extra 6 months.
However, for some old models they have no spare parts available.
B,

We had all models. To be clear: the optics are superb!!
Than a customer came back with a stabilisation failure and warranty was rejected because of 1 week overdue. No discussion possible.
We compensated the customer and waved Canon goodby.
I don't know (and care) about the new Canons.

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We had all models. To be clear: the optics are superb!!
Than a customer came back with a stabilisation failure and warranty was rejected because of 1 week overdue. No discussion possible.
We compensated the customer and waved Canon goodby.
I don't know (and care) about the new Canons.

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Outstanding customer service Jan!
Nehh, nothing to do with that.
Long term vision.
Kick out those who only want it one way

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I had awful trouble with a Canon professional copier years ago. Canon was impossible to deal with.

I bought their top end 110 camera broken, and well out of warranty, for 1. They fixed it for nothing, and I used it a lot.

However, I have used their binoculars for over 15 years. Personally, if a Canon binocular broke, I would just buy another one. I know the drill.
It is not only Canon. Many compact digital cameras fail at 13 months, I think deliberately. I understand some other devices are designed to fail.
The classic is the light bulb, where in the 1920s there was a conspiracy to cut their lifetime with major firms involved.

These days, with the internet, cashbacks, extended free warranties, club cards, six months free, and so on I find many firms impossible. I try to avoid all of these deals. Any firm that really upsets me, I have nothing to do with.

One learns which to use and which to avoid, depending on experiences.
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awaiting Henry's report on the 8x30 hybrid

Henry: Have you received your binocular from Jan yet?
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Old Monday 2nd May 2016, 18:09   #166
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karmantra,

Oddly enough, the binocular arrived about the same time you posted. At this point I'll only say two things. First, at delivery there were no customs fees or duties to pay. Is it possible a bill from US Customs comes later? Second, the Field Optics Research winged eye shields (small size) fit perfectly. I'll write up a review in about a week.

Thanks again, Jan. I can't say enough good things about how well you handled this unorthodox purchase.

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I had awful trouble with a Canon professional copier years ago. Canon was impossible to deal with.
I bought their top end 110 camera broken, and well out of warranty, for 1. They fixed it for nothing, and I used it a lot.

One learns which to use and which to avoid, depending on experiences.
Canon is a high tech manufacturer, rather than service oriented. They don't really do repair, it is not their thing except by accident.
While several of my Canon cameras have been retired over the years due to obsolescence, they still work. Likewise, my 10x42ISL has served flawlessly since 2008 and when it dies, I'll buy a new one.
So buy their stuff expecting a finite life and you'll be happy.
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... and the "finite life" refers to the equipment or the buyer?

(The correct answer, I guess, is "yes.")
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... and the "finite life" refers to the equipment or the buyer?

(The correct answer, I guess, is "yes.")
Jan has already clarified that. Finite is the warranty period, anything over that is bonus.
Fortunately for us buyers there is as yet no built in self destruct timer in most of these products, so they generally outlive their warranty by a considerable period.
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Jan has already clarified that. Finite is the warranty period, anything over that is bonus.
Fortunately for us buyers there is as yet no built in self destruct timer in most of these products, so they generally outlive their warranty by a considerable period.
If one could hold his breath for 7 days, I would call THAT a considerable period

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karmantra,

Oddly enough, the binocular arrived about the same time you posted. At this point I'll only say two things. First, at delivery there were no customs fees or duties to pay. Is it possible a bill from US Customs comes later? Second, the Field Optics Research winged eye shields (small size) fit perfectly. I'll write up a review in about a week.

Thanks again, Jan. I can't say enough good things about how well you handled this unorthodox purchase.

Henry
Henry,

You're tax free! No US customs duty for binoculars (at least for certain if under $2500 value). Also glad to learn there was no Dutch tariff on the transaction.
Eager to see your report.

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Thanks Jerry. That's good to know. Back in the Cold War days of 1987 I ordered a CZJ 8x50 Octarem from a UK dealer. When it arrived I was unpleasantly surprised to find that a 40% duty had to be paid because it was made in East Germany.

The review is progressing slowly. One area I can say something about now that I don't think I've seen mentioned before is the distortion profile. I was expecting fairly high pincushion distortion combined with low angular magnification distortion. I haven't photographed it yet, but what I see is low pincushion with perhaps a touch of mustache distortion toward the edge and higher than expected AMD.

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I also want to thank Jan for making the impossible possible. He went far beyond what I ever expect a dealer to do.

I should have the binocular in a week or so. I'll try to post a review within a week after it arrives.

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I have to agree with Henry on the outstanding service I received from Jan on a most recent binocular purchase. Like Henry said Jan went far and beyond to assure I got the item I was looking for. Steller service!
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I have to agree with Henry on the outstanding service I received from Jan on a most recent binocular purchase. Like Henry said Jan went far and beyond to assure I got the item I was looking for. Steller service!
Thanks John, but........

I'm more curious how your SLC 8x56 is treating you. This model is quite unknown in the US

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Thanks John, but........

I'm more curious how your SLC 8x56 is treating you. This model is quite unknown in the US

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Jan: Haven't had a chance to use it in the field yet due to holiday weekend travels. Hope to get the 8x56 out later in the week. Had a chance to look it over and inspect it and everything looked great, will report later.
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