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Old Friday 10th November 2006, 19:40   #1
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3 Bird IDs, Louisville Kentucky

I'm back with some new photos i took in my yard..

I would like ID on the 2 small birds and the raptor...

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Old Friday 10th November 2006, 19:48   #2
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The two small birds look like female and male, respectively, House Finchs.

The raptor looks like a juvenile Accipiter, but not sure what kind.
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Old Friday 10th November 2006, 19:54   #3
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The two small birds look like female and male, respectively, House Finchs.

The raptor looks like a juvenile Accipiter, but not sure what kind.

Accipiter???????? Which one? I went to look it up and there is about 30 different kinds.. lol

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Old Friday 10th November 2006, 20:06   #4
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Interesting juvenile accipiter!

The head is smallish and rounded, the bill is smallish, the legs are on the thin and small side, and the "expression" is gentle (for an accipiter). All those factors indicate Sharp-shinned Hawk.

However... no supercilium, or maybe just a hint of a tawny one, which are usually Cooper's Hawk characteristics... and while the density and thickness of the upper streaks are good for Sharpie, the flank and belly plumage is essentially unbarred, which is another Cooper's characteristic.

There is an almost complete overlap on plumage with juveniles, and structure trumps plumage, so I will vote for juvenile Accipiter striatus velox (Sharpie). Don't suppose you have any other photos, particularly ones showing the tail?
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Interesting juvenile accipiter!

The head is smallish and rounded, the bill is smallish, the legs are on the thin and small side, and the "expression" is gentle (for an accipiter). All those factors indicate Sharp-shinned Hawk.

However... no supercilium, or maybe just a hint of a tawny one, which are usually Cooper's Hawk characteristics... and while the density and thickness of the upper streaks are good for Sharpie, the flank and belly plumage is essentially unbarred, which is another Cooper's characteristic.

There is an almost complete overlap on plumage with juveniles, and structure trumps plumage, so I will vote for juvenile Accipiter striatus velox (Sharpie). Don't suppose you have any other photos, particularly ones showing the tail?
Thank you for your help.. I only have one other photo before it flew away.. I think you can possibly see the underside of the tail but that's it..

I will attach it.
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Old Friday 10th November 2006, 22:21   #6
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Agree with BL on the Accipiter and the description, in combination with the centrally placed eye makes a point for Sharp-shinned. Due to overlapping characters they are a h***l of a challenge sometimes, and a tail would be nice!

Remeber some threads here on BF.

http://www.birdforum.net/showthread....p-shinned+hawk

http://www.birdforum.net/showthread....p-shinned+hawk

http://www.birdforum.net/showthread....t=coopers+hawk

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Old Friday 10th November 2006, 22:26   #7
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the two little birds are lunch for the bigger bird
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ya I agree with sharpie. (juvenile) and they are definatly house finches.
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Just for future reassurance, ltshears, you don't have to worry about all Accipiters - there are only 3 species that reside in the US - Sharp-shinned Hawk (Accipiter striatus, your bird), Cooper's Hawk (Accipiter cooperii), and Northern Goshawk (Accipiter gentilis). Nice Sharpie shot, by the way!
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Old Saturday 11th November 2006, 03:07   #10
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Just for future reassurance, ltshears, you don't have to worry about all Accipiters - there are only 3 species that reside in the US - Sharp-shinned Hawk (Accipiter striatus, your bird), Cooper's Hawk (Accipiter cooperii), and Northern Goshawk (Accipiter gentilis). Nice Sharpie shot, by the way!
Thanks , i guess that would help next time.. lol.. As you can tell i don't know alot about identifying birds and am farily new to bird watching...
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