Join for FREE
It only takes a minute!
Zeiss - Always on the lookout for something special – Shop now

Welcome to BirdForum.
BirdForum is the net's largest birding community, dedicated to wild birds and birding, and is absolutely FREE! You are most welcome to register for an account, which allows you to take part in lively discussions in the forum, post your pictures in the gallery and more.

Leupold Gold Ring HD 8x32 versus SV 8x32

Reply
 
Thread Tools Rating: Thread Rating: 14 votes, 4.79 average.
Old Wednesday 22nd October 2014, 15:34   #76
Chosun Juan
Given to Fly
 
Chosun Juan's Avatar

 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Central West NSW, Australia
Posts: 6,102
Quote:
Originally Posted by Annabeth2 View Post
That's so cool !

The GR bins do have sort of an American vibe to them. The 8x32 always appeared small on the site back in the day, but I've heard they are somewhat large for a 32mm and very heavy of course. I've always liked their appearance/design, but I'm sure I wouldn't like the weight.

I'm one of those weirdos who likes the brown color. I like earth tones, so it's nice to see the rare brown colored bins every so often. Some people feel they look like doodoo.
Yeah cool! as long as they don't decide to commit suicide on the bonnet of your car (The famous Bathurst 1000 at Mt. Panorama the other weekend had to be stopped with safety car, after a 'roo hopped onto the circuit! definitely not what you want at 300 k's /hr !! )
The big buck males (6ft+) also have the undesireable trait of wanting to kick the living sh*p out of anyone and everyone around spring mating time of year --- lock up your grandma's !!!

I like the brown colour too! Also the "Switch Power's"

I also like the Brunton Icon's with their stylish copper trim - very earthy!



Chosun
Chosun Juan is online now  
Reply With Quote

BF Supporter 2016 Support BirdForum With A Donation

Old Wednesday 22nd October 2014, 15:39   #77
Gilmore Girl
Beth
 
Gilmore Girl's Avatar

 
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Northeast
Posts: 2,746
Quote:
Originally Posted by Chosun Juan View Post
I like the brown colour too! Also the "Switch Power's"


Chosun
I've always wished there were switch power bins available...from any company. It's a nice idea.
Gilmore Girl is offline  
Reply With Quote

BF Supporter 2013 Support BirdForum With A Donation

Old Wednesday 22nd October 2014, 16:23   #78
perterra
Registered User
 
perterra's Avatar

 
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: tx
Posts: 1,981
Quote:
Originally Posted by jgraider View Post
As far as I know, Meopta and Schmidt & Bender are the only ones who grind and polish their own glass, in house.
Thank you,
__________________
"Chan eil aoibhneas gun Chlann Dhomhnaill"
perterra is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old Wednesday 22nd October 2014, 17:38   #79
[email protected]
Registered User

 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Colorado
Posts: 2,134
Quote:
Originally Posted by perterra View Post
From a business viewpoint it would be hard to justify spending the millions required to produce no more units of binoculars than they were producing. If they were mfg binos in the USA they were losing a shoebox full of money on every unit they sold.

From the past I believe I have read from people who took plant tours they machine all the scope tubes here in the US and assemble with sourced glass(as most big names do).

Who grinds their own glass now?
That's my point. Even the big names don't grind their own glass right.
denco@comcast.n is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old Wednesday 22nd October 2014, 17:44   #80
[email protected]
Registered User

 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Colorado
Posts: 2,134
Quote:
Originally Posted by Samandag View Post
It's quite interesting what you can dig up on this.

http://ukvarminting.com/forums/topic/22919-kahles-832/ (requires registration) :

" ... on a factory visit to Swarovski I went for a wander around the back of the factory and noticed strewn around the rubbish bins lots of boxes with the name Hoya on. As you probably all know Hoya is a proprietary optical glass manufacturer. I did some digging to see what the Japanese glass went into. The answer was that they [Swaro] "assemble" rifle scopes for importers who want their own name on them ! ... "
That is interesting. Especially about the Hoya glass in the dumpster. HaHa!
denco@comcast.n is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old Wednesday 22nd October 2014, 17:48   #81
[email protected]
Registered User

 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Colorado
Posts: 2,134
Quote:
Originally Posted by perterra View Post
From a business viewpoint it would be hard to justify spending the millions required to produce no more units of binoculars than they were producing. If they were mfg binos in the USA they were losing a shoebox full of money on every unit they sold.

From the past I believe I have read from people who took plant tours they machine all the scope tubes here in the US and assemble with sourced glass(as most big names do).

Who grinds their own glass now?
That's saying a lot if they machine their own optical tubes. Too me that is very impressive. Leupold really makes some fine American made scopes.
denco@comcast.n is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old Wednesday 22nd October 2014, 17:50   #82
[email protected]
Registered User

 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Colorado
Posts: 2,134
Quote:
Originally Posted by jgraider View Post
As far as I know, Meopta and Schmidt & Bender are the only ones who grind and polish their own glass, in house.
So not even the big three make their own lenses! Zeiss, Leica or Swarovski.
denco@comcast.n is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old Wednesday 22nd October 2014, 17:51   #83
[email protected]
Registered User

 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Colorado
Posts: 2,134
Quote:
Originally Posted by Samandag View Post
Each time this comes up I find myself wishing for a pair of S&B binos, if only ...
I have never heard of Scmidt and Bender. Where do you get them?
denco@comcast.n is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old Wednesday 22nd October 2014, 17:57   #84
[email protected]
Registered User

 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Colorado
Posts: 2,134
Quote:
Originally Posted by gcole View Post
The rules for designating "Made in USA" are generally .... the item has to have been substantially transformed in the US or the US manufacturing costs must comprise more than 75% of the total manufacturing.This is a loose definition but still applies to the best of my knowledge. "Assembled in the US" means that it doesn't meet the above definition so probably has more than 75% of non-US sourced components but simply put together in the US. Again, this is a very general definition and it is a very complex calculation that manufacturers have to do if they want to be able to defend their "Made in USA" designation. ...gwen
It sounds like the stipulations for made in the US are pretty complicated like most things associated with the Federal Government.
denco@comcast.n is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old Wednesday 22nd October 2014, 18:17   #85
Steve C
Registered User
 
Steve C's Avatar

 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Klamath Falls, Oregon
Posts: 3,572
As to the question posed by Gwen several posts ago. If you were to take the rubber armor off a McKinley and a Gold Ring HD I doubt ANYBODY would be able to tell the difference. I think most people will prefer the newer McKinley to the original. There is HUGE ergonomic difference. The optics are the same, but most people will swear the new one is better. People really should pay less attention to spec sheets. The ONLY people who complain about the weight of the Gold Ring are overwhelmingly those who have never used one. Not to pick on Brock here, but he's the poster boy example of this. I can not explain this, but while the Gold Ring pulls the scale down more than the McKinley, the Gold Ring in one hand and the McKinley in the other, the Gold Ring feels lighter. I should add that I'm not the only person who thinks so either.

My Gold Ring HD 8x42 is my main gun these days. However I also use the Mojave 8x32 a LOT as well. What the Allbinos review says about the 8x32 Gold Ring works for my 8x42. All one would have to do is go through and replace all the x32 with an x42. Wile I happen to think the Swarovski SLC-HD is Swarovski's best offering, I would turn down a straight across trade. For me the GR HD fits like a custom designed perfect fit for me binocular. You will go cross eyed trying to nit pick optical differences. They are there, but not enough to matter at all...to me anyway.

As to Bruce's reference to the McKinley vs SV in relationship to his Pinto vs Grand Prix analogy...come are you KIDDING.... The Swarovski is the better instrument to be sure...IF you don't have rolling ball issues (no I'm not trying to be Brock's replacement here) . However the McKinley is just a little behind, the difference is not as great to most people as you infer. Bruce you need to keep in mind that (if I remember your posts correctly) that you have less than perfect eye sight. I have always felt that vision on either end of the optical spectrum...either poor or very good, is where one benefits the most from good optics. Also keep in mind that just because either one of us likes or dislikes a certain binocular...neither one of us are the final arbiter. I am however glad you have a binocular that has said...KEEPER...to you in no uncertain terms and that you enjoy it like you seem to do. That you enjoy it is no surprise either...aside from my rolling ball issues, it is a great optic.

I'm working on a Leupold centered review comparing the Gold Ring HD, the two McKinley versions, the ZEN Prime, and for kicks the Mojave 8x32.
__________________
Steve

"Do what you can, with what you have, where you are". Teddy Roosevelt.

Last edited by Steve C : Wednesday 22nd October 2014 at 18:20.
Steve C is offline  
Reply With Quote

BF Supporter 2009 Support BirdForum With A Donation

Old Wednesday 22nd October 2014, 18:21   #86
[email protected]
Registered User

 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Colorado
Posts: 2,134
Quote:
Originally Posted by Chosun Juan View Post
Dennis, are you saying that it is ugly as sin? Garish, tasteless, gawdy and LOUD ?! Lacking in style and class? Overweight, big and fat? Is it dripping in lashings of superfluous chrome and redundant tailfins? ........

Or is it built like a tank? Bigger than Texas?! Crying out for a *subtle*! Stars and Stripes paintjob and wheelie bars!

America did some very nice stuff back in the 50's with futuristic concept cars that never got built, but by and large if you want style and class, you go to the Italians and Europeans (Hyundai's excellent Cally Design Studio, and the Marlboro Man's awesome Sheepskin Jacket notwithstanding! :)

Don't tell me that it *Trumps* your SV as a thing of style and beauty ?! ..... or is it just the quasi - made in the good ol' US of A that compels you to stand and salute everytime you lay eyes on it, could swear you can hear the Star Spangled Banner being butchered by some tone-deaf college girl (though nowhere near as bad as Roseanne Barr ! ), and get all misty eyed, so that it just looks that way?

More importantly is it a keeper, or is this the famous pump and dump to make way for the rather nice looking Zeiss SF?

Relax, I'm just funnin' ya !!

And yes, we really do have kangaroos hopping down the 'Mayne' St.



Chosun
Funny, Chosun. Good to hear from the "Down Under" perspective. The GR kind of looks like an old Cadillac if you know what I mean. No, just kidding. It just seems really built well and almost over built which is why it is heavy for a 32mm. The machining on say the hinges are really done well. I have NEVER seen a Chinese binocular with machining like the GR and the armour is really quality and laid down tightly. Swaro QA has nothing on the GR's although the Swaro's might be a little more elegant. If I had to go through a war with both though I think the GR would more likely emerge unscathed than the Swaro. Interesting about the Roo's. I have never been to Australia but I have been to your eastern cousin across the Tasman Sea New Zealand and I enjoyed that country immensely. The trout fishing was fantastic and the thermal activity was extraordinary. The only place I have seen more was in Yellowstone National Park in Wyoming.

Last edited by [email protected] : Wednesday 22nd October 2014 at 18:25.
denco@comcast.n is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old Wednesday 22nd October 2014, 18:24   #87
[email protected]
Registered User

 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Colorado
Posts: 2,134
Quote:
Originally Posted by Chosun Juan View Post
Yeah cool! as long as they don't decide to commit suicide on the bonnet of your car (The famous Bathurst 1000 at Mt. Panorama the other weekend had to be stopped with safety car, after a 'roo hopped onto the circuit! definitely not what you want at 300 k's /hr !! )
The big buck males (6ft+) also have the undesireable trait of wanting to kick the living sh*p out of anyone and everyone around spring mating time of year --- lock up your grandma's !!!

I like the brown colour too! Also the "Switch Power's"

I also like the Brunton Icon's with their stylish copper trim - very earthy!



Chosun
Really the GR's are not overly large compared to my Swaro's they are just shorter and fatter. Dense for their size though.
denco@comcast.n is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old Wednesday 22nd October 2014, 18:25   #88
[email protected]
Registered User

 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Colorado
Posts: 2,134
Quote:
Originally Posted by Annabeth2 View Post
I've always wished there were switch power bins available...from any company. It's a nice idea.
Yes. One that worked well.
denco@comcast.n is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old Wednesday 22nd October 2014, 18:32   #89
[email protected]
Registered User

 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Colorado
Posts: 2,134
Quote:
Originally Posted by Steve C View Post
As to the question posed by Gwen several posts ago. If you were to take the rubber armor off a McKinley and a Gold Ring HD I doubt ANYBODY would be able to tell the difference. I think most people will prefer the newer McKinley to the original. There is HUGE ergonomic difference. The optics are the same, but most people will swear the new one is better. People really should pay less attention to spec sheets. The ONLY people who complain about the weight of the Gold Ring are overwhelmingly those who have never used one. Not to pick on Brock here, but he's the poster boy example of this. I can not explain this, but while the Gold Ring pulls the scale down more than the McKinley, the Gold Ring in one hand and the McKinley in the other, the Gold Ring feels lighter. I should add that I'm not the only person who thinks so either.

My Gold Ring HD 8x42 is my main gun these days. However I also use the Mojave 8x32 a LOT as well. What the Allbinos review says about the 8x32 Gold Ring works for my 8x42. All one would have to do is go through and replace all the x32 with an x42. Wile I happen to think the Swarovski SLC-HD is Swarovski's best offering, I would turn down a straight across trade. For me the GR HD fits like a custom designed perfect fit for me binocular. You will go cross eyed trying to nit pick optical differences. They are there, but not enough to matter at all...to me anyway.

As to Bruce's reference to the McKinley vs SV in relationship to his Pinto vs Grand Prix analogy...come are you KIDDING.... The Swarovski is the better instrument to be sure...IF you don't have rolling ball issues (no I'm not trying to be Brock's replacement here) . However the McKinley is just a little behind, the difference is not as great to most people as you infer. Bruce you need to keep in mind that (if I remember your posts correctly) that you have less than perfect eye sight. I have always felt that vision on either end of the optical spectrum...either poor or very good, is where one benefits the most from good optics. Also keep in mind that just because either one of us likes or dislikes a certain binocular...neither one of us are the final arbiter. I am however glad you have a binocular that has said...KEEPER...to you in no uncertain terms and that you enjoy it like you seem to do. That you enjoy it is no surprise either...aside from my rolling ball issues, it is a great optic.

I'm working on a Leupold centered review comparing the Gold Ring HD, the two McKinley versions, the ZEN Prime, and for kicks the Mojave 8x32.
Good to hear from you Steve. I am not surprised that you like the GR so much. It is a fine binocular. Would really like to read your review on those four Leupold's. That would be interesting. I had the original Mckinley and it didn't work for me very good but I think it had some good glass in it. Maybe I should check out the newer model.
denco@comcast.n is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old Wednesday 22nd October 2014, 18:33   #90
Steve C
Registered User
 
Steve C's Avatar

 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Klamath Falls, Oregon
Posts: 3,572
I hope that this will settle the issue. The Leupold Gold Ring was a joint venture between the Japanese firm Kamakura and Leupold. Leupold did ASSEMBLE some of the first ones in Beaverton, Oregon. But that is ALL they did...ASSEMBLE, using the pieces Kamakura sent them. Early on, Leupold probably did make some things in Oregon, but the meat and potatoes of the binocular are Kamakua. While Leupold engineers had significant input into the design, it is, or developed into a Kamakura binocular that Leupold helped design. When Leupold first hit the market at then alpha level prices, people went nuts and Leupold had to back off the USA assembly to keep the costs down. Misguided complaints about too much weight did not help, and alas we are minus one significantly good binocular in today's marketplace.
__________________
Steve

"Do what you can, with what you have, where you are". Teddy Roosevelt.

Last edited by Steve C : Wednesday 22nd October 2014 at 18:38.
Steve C is offline  
Reply With Quote

BF Supporter 2009 Support BirdForum With A Donation

Old Wednesday 22nd October 2014, 18:39   #91
[email protected]
Registered User

 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Colorado
Posts: 2,134
Quote:
Originally Posted by Steve C View Post
I hope that this will settle the issue. The Leupold Gold Ring was a joint venture between the Japanese firm Kamakura and Leupold. Leupold did ASSEMBLE some of the first ones in Beaverton, Oregon. But that is ALL they did...ASSEMBLE, using the pieces Kamakura sent them. Early on, Leupold probably did make some things in Oregon, but the meat and potatoes of the binocular are Kamakua. While Leupold engineers had significant input into the design, it is, or developed into a Kamakura binocular that Leupold helped design. When Leupold first hit the market at then alpha level prices, people went nuts and Leupold had to back off the USA assembly to keep the costs down. Misguided complaints about too much weight did not help, and alas we are minus one significantly good binocular in today's marketplace.
Steve. What do you mean by people went nuts? People complained because of the high price?
denco@comcast.n is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old Wednesday 22nd October 2014, 19:23   #92
Steve C
Registered User
 
Steve C's Avatar

 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Klamath Falls, Oregon
Posts: 3,572
Quote:
Originally Posted by [email protected] View Post
Steve. What do you mean by people went nuts? People complained because of the high price?
That was certainly part of it. Another aspect, unfortunately, was the fact that they were not German...everybody knows only Germans can build binoculars for that price . Remember that this dated to 2006 or thereabouts. Steve Ingraham's BVD review of the Gold Ring HD is spot on the money. There was all sorts on nonsense posted about them in various forums. Still another aspect was the fact that Leupold was entering a new area for them and they were not and likely still are not viewed as a prime binocular source. Their first Gold Ring was a stout, expensive binocular that lacked phase coating and could not compete against the cost equal binoculars that did come from Germany (or Austria). Rifle scopes are another matter. Another aspect was the weight...everybody went nuts over the spec sheet and never bothered to seriously look at one. The weight is glass...good glass. Good glass with proper balance .

Another thing not to be taken lightly either is the made in USA stuff. People likely got offended that they were not 100% made here. But as Bill has pointed out more than once that has not happened for a long time. The death of made in the USA binoculars, and the trend toward better quality for less expense probably arrives with the advent of the JTTI. As far as I know (and this may not be right) the last mainstream USA binocular was probably the B&L Zephyr. Even the last several years of the Zephyr were made in Japan.
__________________
Steve

"Do what you can, with what you have, where you are". Teddy Roosevelt.

Last edited by Steve C : Wednesday 22nd October 2014 at 20:00.
Steve C is offline  
Reply With Quote

BF Supporter 2009 Support BirdForum With A Donation

Old Wednesday 22nd October 2014, 19:48   #93
SteveTS
Registered User

 
Join Date: Oct 2013
Location: UK
Posts: 1,288
Quote:
Originally Posted by [email protected] View Post
I have never heard of Scmidt and Bender. Where do you get them?
They are purely a high end telescopic sight maker manufacturing in Germany and in Hungary.

Their products are tailored to the sports, hunting, law enforcement and military markets.

This is the standard : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Craig_H...n_%28sniper%29

Very many people would buy S&B bins if only they made them !
SteveTS is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old Wednesday 22nd October 2014, 20:05   #94
Gilmore Girl
Beth
 
Gilmore Girl's Avatar

 
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Northeast
Posts: 2,746
Quote:
Originally Posted by Steve C View Post
The ONLY people who complain about the weight of the Gold Ring are overwhelmingly those who have never used one.
I have to respectfully disagree with you on that. People have preferences based on experience. I do know at this point that I don't like a heavy binocular based on using a heavy binocular. I doubt I'd buy another heavyweight like the Trinovid 8x42 ever again. It's an awesome binocular, but it's too heavy for me. I've never owned a GR binocular, but it's something I would avoid now since weight has become an issue for me.
Gilmore Girl is offline  
Reply With Quote

BF Supporter 2013 Support BirdForum With A Donation

Old Wednesday 22nd October 2014, 20:13   #95
Steve C
Registered User
 
Steve C's Avatar

 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Klamath Falls, Oregon
Posts: 3,572
Quote:
Originally Posted by Annabeth2 View Post
I have to respectfully disagree with you on that. People have preferences based on experience. I do know at this point that I don't like a heavy binocular based on using a heavy binocular. I doubt I'd buy another heavyweight like the Trinovid 8x42 ever again. It's an awesome binocular, but it's too heavy for me. I've never owned a GR binocular, but it's something I would avoid now since weight has become an issue for me.
To each of course their own . I perhaps should have substituted "vast majority" for only. But the point still stands. They do not handle nearly as heavy as one might expect. There are some 30 oz binoculars that handle like 40 oz binoculars and then there are 30 oz binoculars that handle like 24 oz. The old Alka-Seltzer commercial comes to mind..."try it, you'll, like it!"
__________________
Steve

"Do what you can, with what you have, where you are". Teddy Roosevelt.
Steve C is offline  
Reply With Quote

BF Supporter 2009 Support BirdForum With A Donation

Old Wednesday 22nd October 2014, 20:15   #96
Gilmore Girl
Beth
 
Gilmore Girl's Avatar

 
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Northeast
Posts: 2,746
Quote:
Originally Posted by Steve C View Post
I hope that this will settle the issue. The Leupold Gold Ring was a joint venture between the Japanese firm Kamakura and Leupold. Leupold did ASSEMBLE some of the first ones in Beaverton, Oregon. But that is ALL they did...ASSEMBLE, using the pieces Kamakura sent them. Early on, Leupold probably did make some things in Oregon, but the meat and potatoes of the binocular are Kamakua. While Leupold engineers had significant input into the design, it is, or developed into a Kamakura binocular that Leupold helped design. When Leupold first hit the market at then alpha level prices, people went nuts and Leupold had to back off the USA assembly to keep the costs down. Misguided complaints about too much weight did not help, and alas we are minus one significantly good binocular in today's marketplace.
Thanks for that insight Steve. Oh how nave I was :)

Last edited by Gilmore Girl : Wednesday 22nd October 2014 at 20:21.
Gilmore Girl is offline  
Reply With Quote

BF Supporter 2013 Support BirdForum With A Donation

Old Wednesday 22nd October 2014, 20:17   #97
Gilmore Girl
Beth
 
Gilmore Girl's Avatar

 
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Northeast
Posts: 2,746
Quote:
Originally Posted by Steve C View Post
To each of course their own . I perhaps should have substituted "vast majority" for only. But the point still stands. They do not handle nearly as heavy as one might expect. There are some 30 oz binoculars that handle like 40 oz binoculars and then there are 30 oz binoculars that handle like 24 oz. The old Alka-Seltzer commercial comes to mind..."try it, you'll, like it!"
I'd love to see one in person and try it. But, they are so rare nowadays.
I almost purchased one of the switch power ones (7x/12x or something) on ebay once.
Gilmore Girl is offline  
Reply With Quote

BF Supporter 2013 Support BirdForum With A Donation

Old Wednesday 22nd October 2014, 21:13   #98
ceasar
Registered User

 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: NE Pennsylvania
Posts: 11,842
Quote:
Originally Posted by [email protected] View Post
That is interesting. Especially about the Hoya glass in the dumpster. HaHa!
Whoa there Dennis!

You are back to your old tricks!

Samandag said that he saw Hoya boxes in the dumpster! Not Hoya Glass; which would imply that it was being thrown away!

Read it here again:

http://www.birdforum.net/showpost.ph...0&postcount=67
ceasar is offline  
Reply With Quote

BF Supporter 2010 Support BirdForum With A Donation

Old Wednesday 22nd October 2014, 21:27   #99
perterra
Registered User
 
perterra's Avatar

 
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: tx
Posts: 1,981
Quote:
Originally Posted by ceasar View Post
Whoa there Dennis!

You are back to your old tricks!

Samandag said that he saw Hoya boxes in the dumpster! Not Hoya Glass; which would imply that it was being thrown away!

Read it here again:

http://www.birdforum.net/showpost.ph...0&postcount=67
I would take that as an indication that swaro is using some Hoya glass. How much and in what, we will likely never know.
__________________
"Chan eil aoibhneas gun Chlann Dhomhnaill"
perterra is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old Wednesday 22nd October 2014, 22:01   #100
ceasar
Registered User

 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: NE Pennsylvania
Posts: 11,842
Quote:
Originally Posted by Samandag View Post
It's quite interesting what you can dig up on this.

http://ukvarminting.com/forums/topic/22919-kahles-832/ (requires registration) :

" ... on a factory visit to Swarovski I went for a wander around the back of the factory and noticed strewn around the rubbish bins lots of boxes with the name Hoya on. As you probably all know Hoya is a proprietary optical glass manufacturer. I did some digging to see what the Japanese glass went into. The answer was that they [Swaro] "assemble" rifle scopes for importers who want their own name on them ! ... "



I notice that Kahles is mentioned in the link you supplied.

Kahles has a history of off and on association with Swarovski. I don't know about their rifle scopes but their binoculars are made in Japan. You may have noticed that the single word "Austria" is on the face of the Focus Wheel of the 3 Kahles binoculars. Nothing on the binoculars or printed on the box they come in says "made in," "manufactured in" or "assembled in" Austria. However there is a small glued on tag on the box which says they are made in Austria.

Bob

Last edited by ceasar : Wednesday 22nd October 2014 at 22:31. Reason: grammar
ceasar is offline  
Reply With Quote

BF Supporter 2010 Support BirdForum With A Donation

Advertisement
Reply


Thread Tools
Rate This Thread
Rate This Thread:

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is Off
HTML code is Off

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
leupold gold ring 8x32 non HD varmintmaster77 Leupold 3 Thursday 24th April 2008 04:33

{googleads}

Fatbirder's Top 1000 Birding Websites

Help support BirdForum

Page generated in 0.20204997 seconds with 38 queries
All times are GMT. The time now is 13:40.