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Old Sunday 17th April 2005, 06:28   #1
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Social Flycatcher

I took this picture in Mexico last December. I think it's a Social Flycatcher but would be grateful for confirmation of my ID. Thanks
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Old Sunday 17th April 2005, 09:21   #2
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I think that the rufous edging on the wing and tail feathers rules out Social Flycatcher.
The only species I can think of in Mexico that it might be is Great Kiskadee though it is a bit difficult in this photo to make out the size of the bill.
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Old Sunday 17th April 2005, 10:23   #3
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I agree with Arthur... rufous edging in Mexico is Great Kiskadee (Pitangus sulphuratus). Even though juv's of various other Tyrants have rufous edging this is - from my experiance - too extensive for that. While the angle obviously is a bit difficult, I still think it is possible note the longish bill, again pointing towards Great Kiskadee. Finally, note the yellow crown patch just peaking out. The crown patch is more reddish in Social.
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Agree with the above. According to Howell & Web, Social Flycatcher has olive edgings on wings and tail in the adult; juvenile has rufous edgings, but lacks crown patch. Crown patch visible excludes the juvenile, in which case the rufous edges point to great kiskadee. I agree with Rasmus that the bill should have been shorter in Social, and culmen would probably have looked somewhat curved even in this angle.

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Old Sunday 17th April 2005, 17:25   #5
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Thanks to each of you for your helpful comments on my photo. Reading them and comparing Great Kiskadee and Social Flycatcher once again I can now see where I went wrong. Great Kiskadee it is! It's great that less experienced (and somewhat isolated) people like me can turn to you for help at times like this. Cheers, and thanks again.
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