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Turkey Kırklareli region( EU side) at 235m altitute Warbler

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Old Sunday 8th September 2019, 16:29   #1
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Turkey Kırklareli region( EU side) at 235m altitute Warbler

Photos were taken on Sept 6th
I need help to Identify.
Thanks for the kind helps
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Old Sunday 8th September 2019, 17:23   #2
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Fitis for me.
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Old Sunday 8th September 2019, 17:32   #3
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Same for me!


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Old Sunday 8th September 2019, 17:53   #4
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I dont understand, a bit cryptic for me - Fitis as in survival of?

Could you please expand on it - subspp?

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I don’t understand, a bit cryptic for me - Fitis as in survival of?

Could you please expand on it - subspp?

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Jean Franois lapsed into French that’s all, Pouillot fitis = Willow Warbler in these parts.

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Jean Franois lapsed into French thats all, Pouillot fitis = Willow Warbler in these parts.
Oh, sorry !
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Fitis is the German name as well. Funny that I didn't even realise that it wasn't appropriate in an English speaking forum
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I did Google it before posting and saw the word associated with trochilus but wondered why. Thank God for Linnaeus and Latin nomenclature Although i am a fan of vernacular both regional and national ones and now i have a new one

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Perhaps Sğtblbl would be more appropriate. Is this acredula?
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I actually didnt think it was Willow either despite the pp - whatever collybita is in French

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Old Monday 9th September 2019, 20:59   #12
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In principle, primary projection is a very reliable criterion.
It is true that, on the other hand, the bird is more reminiscent of a Chiffchaff.
Any other opinions ?
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Old Monday 9th September 2019, 21:47   #13
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There’s no emargination on p6 so willow warbler
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Theres no emargination on p6 so willow warbler
Can we see that on the closed wing?
I can only see that of the P3.
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Can we see that on the closed wing?
I can only see that of the P3.
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Of course - it's not always easy but they can be seen here.

Apologies - after posting I realised that that doesn't open very big! You'll have to squint to see it!
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Thats great but if you dont get a picture that you can forensically dissect then in the field that would have been a Chiffchaff to most ppl i know and im not ashamed to admit it

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Of course - it's not always easy but they can be seen here.
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