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Old Monday 17th October 2011, 12:15   #1
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Wink Booted Eagle - Spain

Hi guys,

Sorry about the photo quality here. I am almost sure that these photos are of a Booted Eagle but I would like some confirmation as it is the first time I have seen this species. Maybe they are two different birds? The first picture was taken in a completely different area and habitat than the other two. Both were taken in October.

The first picture was taken over a gorge in Alhama de Granada, in southern Spain, a high-altitude mountainous rocky habitat. The single bird spent most of the time gliding high above the gorge.

The other two were taken in Albufera, Valencia, in the east of Spain, a fertile, very low lying pastureland. There were two birds constantly flapping around the area together. They did not glide much. Unfortunately I had only my camera with me at the time and a bad old pair of binos. However, even with the naked eye, I noticed that the birds had a good bit of whitish colouration both above and below.

Any ideas? Tks
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Old Monday 17th October 2011, 12:39   #2
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Yes both are Booted Eagles.
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Tks Neil. Was a bit hesitant when I saw them in totally different habitats. Tks.
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Old Monday 17th October 2011, 13:46   #4
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Have you any more images of the first bird?

(Neil, how do you conclusively rule out Black Kite for this one?)
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Have you any more images of the first bird?

(Neil, how do you conclusively rule out Black Kite for this one?)
Good question
I would expect to see the white points at base of wing very well from this angle in Booted, also the moulted central tail feathers look very dark for Booted.
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Old Monday 17th October 2011, 23:45   #6
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No, sorry, I don't have another picture of the first bird. It was quite a distance away and very high up. I was lucky to even get this one. Had never even considered the Black Kite. Thks lads for your input. Much appreciated.
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1st bird is a Black Kite. 2 and 3 Booted Eagle.
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Old Tuesday 18th October 2011, 07:36   #8
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If you look at the second picture you can make out two White flashes each side of the neck - in the guide these are described as landing lights. These are missing from the first 'black kite' as pointed out by Tom.....
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Have you any more images of the first bird?

(Neil, how do you conclusively rule out Black Kite for this one?)
Graham,

I miss read the OP & thought there were two birds not three, I thought the first two were the same bird (looking at the moult in the primaries). I considered Black Kite but was swayed to Booted on the second image. Now I've had another look & re-read the OP I agree with the majority Black Kite for the first & Booted for the other two. My apologies to the OP.
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Yes, the first bird is a Black Kite and although blurred this is a very instructive photo. Often described as having a shallowly forked tail this photo demonstrates how, in life, Black Kite may appear to have a straight or even slightly convex tail tip,
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Thanks a lot guys. It is very imformative. Hadn't thought of the Black Kite as, from this picture, the tail does not look even slightly forked but as John said.... As for white landing lights, you all have great eyesight. Tks again.

(PS. There are two birds. The first picture is one bird, and the other two are the same bird.)
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Here's a black kite illustrating John's point about the tail shape. A few seconds later and it would have probably been showing a fork.
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That's a lovely shot. I hope to get one like that sometime myself. So I take it then, we are agreed then that the first is a black kite and the second (in the other two photos) is a booted eagle?
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