House finch ? Switzerland (1 Viewer)

saviornitho

Jérémy Savioz

• Jul 2, 2019

• #1

Hello,

A non indigenous Finch is currently showing up and singing in a garden in Eastern Switerzland. Pictures tend to think it is a House Finch (Haemorhous mexicanus), which is quite commonly held in captivity in Europe. However, the recording of the song is totaly different than that I could find on the Internet.

Could you please help me with the ID (see recording and pictures attached) ? Could it be an hybrid between a House Finch and another ornamental bird (such as a canary) ?

Thank you.
Greetings,

Jérémy

 

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Last edited: Jul 2, 2019

howiewu

Well-known member

• Jul 2, 2019

• #2

It looks like a pure House Finch to me. Perhaps it learned its songs?

 

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BobbitWorm45

Well-known member

• Jul 2, 2019

• #3

Looks like a Rosefinch

 

Andy Adcock

Worst person on Birdforum

• Jul 2, 2019

• #4

Yes, why isn't it a Common Rosefinch?

 

lou salomon

the birdonist

• Jul 2, 2019

• #5

it doesn't sing like a common rosefinch. and neither does it sing like a house finch. more like a canary breed.

 

Andrew Whitehouse

Professor of Listening

Supporter

• Jul 2, 2019

• #6

lou salomon said:

it doesn't sing like a common rosefinch. and neither does it sing like a house finch. more like a canary breed.

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Wonder if it's a House Finch that's been raised with domestic canaries and picked up elements of their song?

 

CARERY

Well-known member

• Jul 2, 2019

• #7

andyadcock said:

Yes, why isn't it a Common Rosefinch?

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It's for sure not a Common Rosefinch - pp too short, flank streaking, distinctly patterned undertail coverts.

I think Andrew's idea is a good one. If it is an escape (is there any record of House Finch in Europa that is considered a wild bird?) who knows where, when, by whom it was raised and what birds it could learn the song from.

 

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rkj

Well-known member

• Jul 2, 2019

• #8

The streaking is much less than I would expect on a wild House Finch - whether this is because of hybridization or selective breeding in captivity I cannot say.

 

Jeff Hopkins

Just another...observer

• Jul 3, 2019

• #9

rkj said:

The streaking is much less than I would expect on a wild House Finch - whether this is because of hybridization or selective breeding in captivity I cannot say.

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That was my impression, too.