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Old Friday 15th March 2019, 06:44   #1
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Wader ID Bangladesh

Saw these birds this morning just outside Dhaka. The first pic shows two Wood Sandpipers in the middle and then two others birds that I'm not sure about. They seem to have a reddish wash on the chest and are fairly heavily marbled on the back. The second pic shows a wader that is substantially smaller than the Wood Sandpiper it is close to. Not sure what it is. My one thought was Temminks stint, but I'm not sure it is identifiable from my poor quality pics. I have some more pics, but they aren't good quality either. If there is a certain angle that would help id these birds tell me and I will see if I have some. Thanks in advance for any help.
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Old Friday 15th March 2019, 07:21   #2
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All Wood Sandpiper in the first pic. The two questioned birds are at a different angle from the others which is giving them a very warm cast. Other one is a bit tougher - Common Sand maybe?
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Old Friday 15th March 2019, 07:31   #3
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Thanks for you help! I had wondered about the lighting, but apparently I should have wondered about it even more. Anyone else going to have a crack at the second picture?
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Old Friday 15th March 2019, 08:13   #4
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Ok I emailed Sayam Chowdhury, one of the top birders in Bangladesh, and he said that the first ones were all Wood sandpiper and that the darker two are first year birds. He also said that the smaller wader is a temminck's stint.
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Ok I emailed Sayam Chowdhury, one of the top birders in Bangladesh, and he said that the first ones were all Wood sandpiper and that the darker two are first year birds. He also said that the smaller wader is a temminck's stint.
I agree. At first glance I thought the bird in the second could be common sand but the colours aren't quite right and neither is the bill shape [and probably size of the bird], so Temminck's stint.
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Agree with all being Wood Sands on the 1st pic; on the second Temminck's Stint was my first thought.
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The small wader in pic 2 could be a Temminck's, but I'd be happier to see more images of it if they are available.
Its bill seems on the long side to me - comparison in the attached montage with 3 Temminck's. All seem to have shorter bills to my eye, with the longest being the bottom bird.

Given that the mystery bird is angled away from us slightly, its bill still appears longer even than the longest-billed bird I could find, so I'm not yet totally convinced...

The other comparison image is of a Temminck's Stint with a Wood Sand. The size of the mystery bird appears to be in the same general ballpark, but I wonder if this is an illusion caused by the bird being angled away from us?

Another image or two should sort it out, to eliminate something else-such as a small Dunlin.
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The small wader in pic 2 could be a Temminck's, but I'd be happier to see more images of it if they are available.
Its bill seems on the long side to me - comparison in the attached montage with 3 Temminck's. All seem to have shorter bills to my eye, with the longest being the bottom bird.

Given that the mystery bird is angled away from us slightly, its bill still appears longer even than the longest-billed bird I could find, so I'm not yet totally convinced...

The other comparison image is of a Temminck's Stint with a Wood Sand. The size of the mystery bird appears to be in the same general ballpark, but I wonder if this is an illusion caused by the bird being angled away from us?

Another image or two should sort it out, to eliminate something else-such as a small Dunlin.
A lot of the apparent length of the bill is ghosting due to camera shake or somesuch. The actual bill bit is shorter—more in line with what you've posted.
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A lot of the apparent length of the bill is ghosting due to camera shake or somesuch. The actual bill bit is shorter—more in line with what you've posted.
You could be correct, but I'd still be happier to see more images before calling it a definite Temminck's

(Seth said in post #1 that there are other images of this bird)

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Old Saturday 16th March 2019, 02:04   #10
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Here's the one the clinched it for Sayam Chowdhury.
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Here's the one the clinched it for Sayam Chowdhury.
Looks good for Temminck's IMO.
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Looks good for Temminck's IMO.
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Agree with Sayam, these are 2 of the common fresh waders in BD. Incidentally you will likely get quicker responses from the local birders via facebook. Would be nice to meet you also at a Bbc (Bangladesh bird club) meeting.
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Agree with Sayam, these are 2 of the common fresh waders in BD. Incidentally you will likely get quicker responses from the local birders via facebook. Would be nice to meet you also at a Bbc (Bangladesh bird club) meeting.
I'm not on Facebook so that won't work, but I do contact Sayam if I have id questions. I've thought about going to a Bbc meeting, but it's across town from where I am, and travel in Dhaka is a pain. I really should just get around to going. Another potential problem is that the meetings are in Bangla. I know basic bangla and limited conversational bangla, but pretty sure I couldn't follow a meeting...
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