Fujifilm HS50 EXR has arrived ! (1 Viewer)

earleybird · Mar 10, 2013

DavidNB said:
Post 2 of this thread specifically asked for input from sx50 owners, which is why y/responded. Perhaps you might have read previous posts before deciding what is on topic.

David

David you miss the point

The other poster didn't start this thread . I did !

The other poster shouldn't have hyjacked my thread anymore than you did. Its not net-etequette.

The other poster also has posted off topic since this is a FUJI forum

I'm not having a go at you I'm trying to keep my thread on topic ie Fujifilm HS50 before it degenerates into the usual brawl as it does on dpreview

earleybird · Mar 10, 2013

peter.jones said:
Without double-glazing

yes ........

easier said than done peter !

Its overcast and very dull this morning so it doesn't look likely today yet. Its pointless posting a poor image as it will just kick off the usual 'my camera is better than yours' bun fight.

The problem is what is a good image ? its never the same thing to any togger.

I see numerous camera reviews with sample images taken in brilliant Mediterranien sunlight, of gaudily coloured fishing boats on a beach somewhere and think to myself , how is that going to help me assess the cameras capabilities of shooting small dull brown birds in foliage in low light overcast Britain ???:C

I am not looking for a top quality image at 20+Mp or I would buy a DSLR camera with a £3000 500mm lens .

I am looking for a camera that can take a reasonable quality snapshot of fast moving small birds often in low light at long tele-foto lengths of 500mm+ capturing as much feather detail as possible.

My images are almost always shared via the net so I usually end up reducing them to around 1.5Mp or less or it takes all day to upload or are too big for hosting on the net.:-C Where am I going to host and show 6Mp+ images that will do the camera justice ?

My neighbour has just bought a Sony X100 20Mp camera with a 1" sensor !:eek!: Naturally it is capable of taking exceptionally good quality images.

I asked him what he intended to do with his 20Mp images

earleybird · Mar 10, 2013

Hamhed said:
I am following with interest your presonal experience with this camera. As a birder who spends a good bit of photography time in forest light, the manual focus and low light capabilities are high on my list of necessary features but I also like to take videos. Can you clarify the statement? Does the manual zoom affect the video mode somehow or are you refering to the size/weight specs?
Thanks,
Steve

Please look at my youtube videos about the Fujifilm HS50 http://youtu.be/ekyTaJ6cIn8

The zoom lens on the HS50 is a manual zoom and it has a high level of friction when you turn it in and out . Consequently when you are in video mode taking a video and go to change the focal length, (ie zoom), it jerks from focal length setting to focal length setting so the video suddenly jumps to a different focal length.

Not sure how else I can explain it really. A motor drive is smooth and seamless zooming in video mode.

Hamhed · Mar 10, 2013

Thanks, earleybird, for the video. It answers my previous questions. Is the focus ring also stiff to use?

Steve

kennethwfd · Mar 10, 2013

Hor Kee said:
I'll love to see how it performs on the long end (1000mm), wide open at f/5.6, handheld and in poor light.

I've taken some test shots this thursday in overcast drizzle, and it does focus quick (maybe not as fast as 0.5 sec) at full zoom in poor light. Importantly accurately without hunting. I went to my local branch of London Camera Exchange and was allowed to handle the camera and take some shots, the reason why I don't have them is that I took the wrong card, so if I wanted to keep my shots I would have had to buy one.

Yes, my shots were handheld

If anyone is near a branch of LCE, it's worth giving them a ring & asking to try the camera.http://www.lcegroup.co.uk/

very impressed, only i have just brought a S5pro from LCE plus some lenses, so cannot afford more equipment for a month or two

HS50 manual download here http://www.fujifilm.eu/uploads/tx_fujifilmproducts/downloads/HS50EXR_manuals_01.pdf

earleybird · Mar 10, 2013

Hamhed said:
Thanks, earleybird, for the video. It answers my previous questions. Is the focus ring also stiff to use?

Steve

Hi Steve .
No the manual focus ring is as smooth as silk. Its incredibly smooth. :t:

You just turn the mini switch from AF to MF on the side of the camera next to the AV and HDMi out sockets

earleybird · Mar 10, 2013

Hor Kee said:
I'll love to see how it performs on the long end (1000mm), wide open at f/5.6, handheld and in poor light.

sorry could only take 2x pictures this morning as the battery ran out.
They were taken in very low light in overcast conditions with no visible sky .
(ie we have the lights on in the house)

The chair and fence was taken hand held at approx 90 feet at

1036 mm (full zoom) in A mode 1/100 f /5.6 ISO 400 6.6MB
Its as far as I can see from my back yard :t:

I have done nothing to the image except upload it to Picasa and then Flickr.

The cropped image is an approximation of a 100% view of the original image to give you some idea of the image resolution
http://www.flickr.com/photos/57957957@N08/8543799683/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/57957957@N08/8544896094/

earleybird · Mar 10, 2013

peter.jones said:
Without double-glazing

image at end of thread on Flickr. Sorry its the best I could do as the battery went flat. :-C

I intended to take several images at 100, 200, 400 and 800 ISO for a comparison but only managed one at 400 ISO

If you view it at the largest size it will give you some idea but bear in mind its dashed off quickly hand held in appalling light . i wouldn't normally attempt to photograph anything in this light

earleybird · Mar 10, 2013

kennethwfd said:
If anyone is near a branch of LCE, it's worth giving them a ring & asking to try the camera.http://www.lcegroup.co.uk/

thanks for the link to the manual download site ,very useful for others to peruse.
good idea about the LCS . We have a local LCS at Taunton . For those that are seriously looking to purchase a camera why not buy from Amazon ? you can return it for full credit under the long distance selling regulations although I believe Amazon will accept a return within 14 or 28 days ,not sure which.

kennethwfd · Mar 11, 2013

searching flikr turned up member macfudge with the following hs50 shots
http://www.flickr.com/photos/macfudge/8543635668/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/macfudge/8540119890/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/macfudge/8542749826/

first is my favourite. I see another thread re cheap teleconverters on the HS20, and the OP has realised they are best used as paperweights, but the Raynox series seems to be reasonably well received, having a 1.85x wonder whether this combinatoin would be better than intelligent digital zoom

review of the 2025pro, giving 2.2x here http://www.safari-guide.co.uk/raynox-dcr-2025pro-super-telephoto-conversion-lens-review/#prettyPhoto

earleybird · Mar 11, 2013

are you sure they were taken with a Fuji HS50 ? those pictures also appear in the HS10 and HS20 Flickr group

I couldn't find any direct reference they were taken with a HS50 ?
It was too cold today to go out taking pictures . Snow ice and gale force winds from Siberia brrrrrrr

I tried a teleconverter on my HS10 once ....orrible thing. it was impossible to use at max zoom because of severe vignetting and you lost a couple of f stops as well. I threw mine in the cupboard where its stayed ever since.

kennethwfd · Mar 11, 2013

I checked the tags on all 3 shots & they state fuji hs50. I used "fuji hs50" as keyword search, and the only other picture to come up was taken by a German member & appeared to be taken with the HS30 . all 3 shots were taken around 8 March. The next on her photostream (the blackbird, again a nice shot) is tagged XS1, so I am assuming she used the camera as listed in the tags

the pics on Safari guide's page seem OK, the Raynox 2025pro seems to retail at about £150, so on the basis of you get what you pay for, I once tried one brought on that auction site as part of a bundle with a Fuji 5700, selling seperately for around £12, severe vignetting as well, only used once.

Tarsiger · Mar 11, 2013

earleybird said:
David you miss the point The other poster didn't start this thread . I did !

The other poster shouldn't have hyjacked my thread anymore than you did. Its not net-etequette.

The other poster also has posted off topic since this is a FUJI forum

I'm not having a go at you I'm trying to keep my thread on topic ie Fujifilm HS50 before it degenerates into the usual brawl as it does on dpreview

Early bird,
Apologies for my desperately poor net-etiquette and my blatant attempt to highjack your thread.

All,
Please ignore post 2.
Russ

earleybird · Mar 11, 2013

Tarsiger said:
Early bird,
Apologies for my desperately poor net-etiquette and my blatant attempt to highjack your thread.

All,
Please ignore post 2.
Russ

no worries Russ

Just trying to keep this thread a resource for those interested in the Fuji HS50. These threads can so easily end up with people arguing about non-Fuji cameras . Glad that you are interested , hope there is something of interest for you

macfudge · Mar 11, 2013

Hs50 Exr

Hi

I am glad you liked the robin photo I posted taken with the HS50 EXR. My Flickr photos are taken with the cameras as tagged. I have just purchased the HS50 EXR but the weather hasn't been up to much to get out and about with it. I have just taken a few macro shot indoors and the few local bird photos I posted to Flickr. Yes I do own the X-S1 as well.

Molly

kennethwfd said:
searching flikr turned up member macfudge with the following hs50 shots
http://www.flickr.com/photos/macfudge/8543635668/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/macfudge/8540119890/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/macfudge/8542749826/

first is my favourite. I see another thread re cheap teleconverters on the HS20, and the OP has realised they are best used as paperweights, but the Raynox series seems to be reasonably well received, having a 1.85x wonder whether this combinatoin would be better than intelligent digital zoom

review of the 2025pro, giving 2.2x here http://www.safari-guide.co.uk/raynox-dcr-2025pro-super-telephoto-conversion-lens-review/#prettyPhoto

earleybird · Mar 11, 2013

ah the famous 'Molly'

I was admiring your Flickr gallery today .

So you have an X-S1 and a HS50 :eek!:

I had to make a choice between the 2x cameras and it has been the hardest choice I've ever had to make I think.

Isn't the weather atrocious ! I tried to take a few pics around the garden this afternoon and had to give up after 5 minutes. It was like Siberia out there .

How do you like the fast AF and shutter speed ? its incredible eh !
Roll on some good light :t:

macfudge · Mar 11, 2013

I am impressed with the autofocus it is faster than the X-S1. It is still early days I am waiting for some decent light and warmer weather to take the HS50 out and put it through it's paces.

Molly

earleybird · Mar 11, 2013

love your pictures ,I'll keep an eye on your Flickr groups . Please do post some images here for everyone to drool over ...

macfudge · Mar 12, 2013

I haven't worked out to post photos on this site yet. When I have taken a few more photos I will try to post them or I could post a link to my Flickr site photos.

Molly

Joms · Mar 12, 2013

earleybird said:
its going to be days possibly weeks before I get a chance to properly test all the various features and functions of the HS50 but there is one aspect of this camera that I needed to check immediately which is the auto focus speed and accuracy.

Its bloomin fantastic !

The HS50 AF (Auto Focus) is absolutely instantaneous. :t:

A typical problem area for my HS10 was trying to get the camera to either focus on a bird in foliage or pre-focus on a small twig or bird feeder in order to capture some of my garden birds.

Typically at 500-720mm the HS10 AF would hunt all over the place , focussing on any adjacent surface or feature, at any distance . Sometimes it would be 15 seconds or more before I could focus on my subject .

The HS50 focuses instantly at 42x zoom (1000mm) even on a small twig 30mm dia at 10 feet distance focussing through db glazed windows .!
The background is some 50 metres behind the twig so the centre focus area is very tight indeed.

I managed to bang off 7x shots of a Pied Wagtail at 12 feet through db glazing as fast as my finger could trigger the shutter button . Thats without half press focusing , simply banging the button as fast as I could.

The images are all perfectly in focus and despite the overcast conditions and low level light today all the shots are crisp .You know how quickly Wagtails move, they are constantly twitching.

The autofocus speed and accuracy is simply amazing which is good news for all us birders

Please bear in mind that the wagtail image was one out of a sequence of 7x shots taken at 1000mm in poor light through double glazing taken as fast as I could hit the button
http://www.flickr.com/photos/57957957@N08/8539654050/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/57957957@N08/8539652250/

Thank you for reporting this information. Now the doubt of slow AF on the long end zoom is gone and I am happy to see the Fuji delivered as promised on the speed and accuracy of the HS50. I am eagerly waiting for more samples from this camera so hopefully you'll get fine weather in the coming days. You sample bird shots considering the condition are really promising.

I do own HS30 and is very interested in replacing it with HS50. I need the speed and longer reach of HS50.

Here are my humble shots from HS30

http://www.flickr.com/photos/joms_birding

Cheers, :t:

Joms

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