Rough-legged Hawk? NJ (1 Viewer)

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NJBirder12

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• Mar 15, 2017

• #1

Saw this guy quite some time ago but I didn't really take a close look at the pic until now. Is it a Rough-legged hawk?

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Kratter

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• Mar 15, 2017

• #2

The short wings and long tail indicate an Accipiter. Looks good for Cooper's Hawk.

Andy

 

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fugl

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• Mar 15, 2017

• #3

Yes, I would think so, with those heavily feathered legs.

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Oops, have to agree with Kratter. It's the thighs not the tarsi that show in the photo as feathered. Everything else screams accipiter.

 

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stevethehydra

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• Mar 16, 2017

• #4

Interesting bird, accipiter-like jizz but buteo-like plumage! I'm guessing juv/immature Cooper's (without knowing much about what that looks like plumage-wise, but have seen juv Goshawks (which this is too slenderly built for IMO) with similarish superficially buzzard-like patterns)?

 

steveMc

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• Mar 16, 2017

• #5

Interesting indeed. To me the heavy streaking underneath is way too dark for a juvenile Cooper's. Must admit my first thought after seeing the pic was Red-shouldered hawk.

 

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Sangahyando

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• Mar 16, 2017

• #6

steveMc said:

Interesting indeed. To me the heavy streaking underneath is way too dark for a juvenile Cooper's. Must admit my first thought after seeing the pic was Red-shouldered hawk.

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Mine too. Still not entirely convinced of an Accipiter ID here. Though I think we can agree is's not a Rough-legged Hawk.

 

SJC

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• Mar 16, 2017

• #7

Surely an Accipiter. My money is on Cooper's

 

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AllanM

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• Mar 16, 2017

• #8

Cooper's for me.

 

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Kratter

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• Mar 16, 2017

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fugl said:

Yes, I would think so, with those heavily feathered legs.

Edit--
Oops, have to agree with Kratter. It's the thighs not the tarsi that show in the photo as feathered. Everything else screams accipiter.

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Actually the thighs of birds are not visible and are concealed within the body skin. The visible joints are the tibiatarsus (knee to ankle) and tarsometarsus (fused foot bones).

Andy

 

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fugl

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• Mar 17, 2017

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Kratter said:

Actually the thighs of birds are not visible and are concealed within the body skin. The visible joints are the tibiatarsus (knee to ankle) and tarsometarsus (fused foot bones)

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Indeed, I was using 'thigh' informally to describe a 'thigh-like' (in mammalian terms} avian appendage. I should have made this clear by putting it in quotes.

 

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NJBirder12

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• Mar 17, 2017

• #11

We have seen Red-Shouldered Hawk and Cooper's this year in the yard, but this pic was almost 3 years ago - at the time the only Hawk we'd see consistently was Red-Tailed which I can readily identify. It seems most think it's a Cooper's??

Thanks for all the posts!